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Lee
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I'm actually, finally, sorta getting into this show. Only took 4 years. Initially I got bored with all the "They have come through the sacred relic! We must execute them immediately!" episodes. Huh, if O'Neill was still played by Kurt Russell he'd have killed them all on the spot, instead bloody MacGyver comes over all Prime Directive. . .

Anyway. I'm confused about a few things:-

1. We're seeing a lot of human-like aliens out there. Are they still sticking to the old "human slaves taken through the Stargate long ago" schtick, or are these real aliens? Is T'ealc an alien?

2. What are those P-90 guns they carry now? Do they actually exist?

3. Is it a point of honour that all SG-1 fan websites out there be totally fucking inoperable?! I mean, you can't navigate because each page seems required to have a stargate-opening sound on it!

4. Having been thwarted by (3) I'm looking for a Zat Gun sound wave, anybody got any links?

5. Tok'ra: pussies or what?

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Malnurtured Snay
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This P-90? Showed up in The World Is Not Enough as well ... and is also available for Counter-Strike players

Yes, I know this is the airsoft model, but I'm fairly certain the gun actually does exit (Austrian military, mayhaps?)

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Sol System
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1.) The human-looking people in the show are almost always either confirmed to actually be human or their origins are simply not discussed. There are a couple of exceptions, notably the Nox, who aren't human (at least I don't think they are), but who look a lot like Armin Shimmerman on a really bad hair day. Teal'c's people are human. Their facial hair choices aren't, though. Oi.

2.) Beats me. I think everything in the show (minus the alien stuff, of course) is actual military hardware. Well, minus the remote control probes...er...and the portable wormhole.

3.) I've never been to one...

4.) ...and thus have no idea where such a file could be found.

5.) I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. They're not exactly the most trustworthy of allies, it seems. Uh...in terms of things like military strength, they don't have much, if any, outside your typical resistance commando sort.

There are people around here who watch the show more than I do (Which is to say, regularly. College is playing havoc with my TV viewing schedules.) I'm sure some of them can probably provide better answers.

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Maybe someday, I'll get into this show. Maybe when I can watch the eps day to day on Sci-Fi, like I did wiht B-5 on TNT.

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Aban Rune
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We downloaded almost every episode here at work... so I've been watching it regularly.

Let me take a stab...

1. I mostly agree with Sol on this one. They usually are humans taken from Earth. Even the very advanced Tollans, I believe, were thought to be humans whose development was not impeded by the Dark Ages. Teal'c's people, The Jaffa, are Humans that have been altered and bread to carry Goa'ould larva.

2. Aban doesn't know guns.

3. Give www.scifiguide.net/stargate/index.shtml a try. I've found it to be and extremely complete episode guide. It's got info on the upcoming season, the new movie, and the spinoff series too.

4. Don't know where to get that. Though I do have the Stargate whoosh set as my incoming e-mail notification. It freaks alot of people out.

5. The Tok'ra are Goa'ould (I know I'm not spelling it right) who are fighting against the System Lords. They don't have a whole lot of power but are more advanced the the Tauri (Humans from Earth). They seem to work mostly by spying and infiltrating. They sort of go back and forth on trustworthiness. On the up-side...they have alot of hot female hosts...

I'm really liking the show because it stays very consistant for the most part and yet it's getting pretty deep into a backstory. It also has alot of recurring plot elements and has been tying up alot of loose ends.

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Take a look at Jan 2000. They exist already.

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Aban Rune
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That is one sweet looking gun...as guns go anyway...

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I think the only non-residents of Earth we've seen who aren't human are the Goa'uld (the worms, not the people they live inside of), the Nox, the Asgard, and the Erector-set aliens (what'd they call them, "replicators", or something?). Also, the aliens who were trying to "terraform" some planet, but we didn't really see them (except a hologram, I think), and I forget their name. And I'm not sure if the Tollan are supposed to be human or not. Probably they are. And they gate-builders are non-human, of course, but we haven't seen them. Oh, and the U... U... U-something. Big nasty guys that used to be Goa'uld hosts.

But, aside from that, everyone we've seen has been human. Unless I'm forgetting someone.

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Lee
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Interesting. I don't suppose they ever mentioned on the show why they'd suddenyl switch from MP-5s to these P-90's all of a sudden?

Yes, I like the show. Especially for the consistency of it all, like getting the Zat Guns then actually using them. In fact, I want the sound to use for my ICQ incoming message; I've had the Crusade door chime for way too long now, itself a successor to the B6 door chime before that. . .

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There is one ep where someone asks what kind of gun it is, guesses wrong, and O'Neill corrects him. But I think that's as clsoe as they ever come. to explaining the change.

The Unas were the original Goa'uld hosts. Definitely not human.

Machello wasn't human, I don't think. But I suppose it's possible. The bounty hunter, Aris Boch looked very human, but I don't thin he was. His species couldn't be used as hosts by the Goa'uld.

There have been minor technical inconsistancies with the gate, the GDOs and the DHDs along the way, but other than that, they've done a decent job.

Be careful with using that Zat gun effect for your ICQ...remember, one shot stings, the second shot kills...



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Lee
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And the third shot *poof*

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B6 door chime? Is JMS not telling us something?

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It was going to be BS, but someone pointed out that it might be better if they stuck to the tried and true...

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quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poet:
3. Is it a point of honour that all SG-1 fan websites out there be totally fucking inoperable?! I mean, you can't navigate because each page seems required to have a stargate-opening sound on it!

Try this site: http://www.sg-1.co.uk/

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One problem with the humans we see out there being descendants from slaves taken through the Stargate, I think, is the time scale. The series follows the basic set up of the movie, which means the Gate found in Egypt had been sealed and buried for something between three and four thousand years.

The difficulty with this is that some of the cultures we've seen are based on societies that existed long since then. The one based on the Mongols comes to mind, as does one where the Goa'uld seemed to be one of the deities from one of the later South American civilizations. (I may be wrong on the latter; its been a while since I saw that episode.)

Of the two known Gates on earth, the Egyptian one had been deliberately sealed after the revolt against Ra, and the one found in Antarctica had been in the ice for who knows how long. So how did any of the latter day cultures get out there? It can't be on a Gou'ald ship; the series more or less assumes the System lords left us alone after Ra's departure, or else we'd still be slaves.

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