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The deepest hole ever dug is only 4.8 kilometers deep.
Well, wait. The article clarifies that that is the deepest gold mine in the world. Anyway, my point is that four kilometers is pretty darn deep. And hot. Incredibly uncomfortable, and no place to hold a rave. You lose enough fluid on E already, without the club being far beneath the surface of the earth.
Incidently, the deepest hole ever dug is +12 kilometers deep. Which is, uh, even deeper. And surely more hellacious. LITERALLY.
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Well, this IS a sci-fi movie. I'm sure that 200-meter boring machines can get 4000 meters in the space of a few days. And for anyone interest, the Earth's crust is usually between 10-50km thick.
They dropped the message in the box because they can't have traceable transmissions to Zion - they demonstrate in "Reloaded" that they do not have direct communications between Zion and their fleet. It's also bound to be tough in the first place... All but the most powerful radio waves have problems with thousands of meters of rock.
Now, some could argue that if it were possible to send a message to Zion, it wouldn't matter since the machines suppsedly knew where it was anyway...
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Well, hell, obviously, and how scientists proved that it exists underground. For certain, without any doubt whatsoever. Yes.
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Despite the fact that this topic has turned to shit, i have another question. Did the Vigilant get destroyed or did the crew just die? I cant remember and I would like to know.
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The squids threw the bomb on the docked ship, the explosion seemed to penetrate the whole ship, including the Jack-in room. I'd say it was completely destroyed, no sense for the machines to cut back on kilotons, I guess...
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I am keen on the idea that the elements of Zion-the council chamber, the engineering core, the ships, and the rest-are part of a larger computer program. The Architect inferred as such and this would explain how Agent Smith is able to operate outside his environment.
A question is raised in the Architect's chamber-how many of the former Ones choose the path of Zion, and how many chose a different path?
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All the Neos take the same door, and they're just as likely projections of Neo's possible choices as they are recordings from previous iterations. For one thing, there are a heck of a lot more than five.
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No, the Neos in the screens represent all the possible things Neo could do - stare dumbfoundedly, scream, swear, say something insightful.. The idea is to reinforce what the Architect was saying - that Neo had no choice because it was all predetermined. The Oracle said basically the same thing.
quote:Originally posted by newark: A question is raised in the Architect's chamber-how many of the former Ones choose the path of Zion, and how many chose a different path?
I thought the whole point was that they had all chosen to save humanity and re-start Zion, resetting the whole chain of events. This was the first time the other door was taken.
The question is, if the Machines truly *knew* what Neo was going to do all along, then why didn't they stop him? They've now allowed him to cause the destruction of the Matrix, which leaves them in the shitter basically. So what are they going to do now?
I suppose we can only assume that they are Supremely Confident in All ThingsTM and have a contingency plan...
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I don't believe all the machines are aware of all the plots, plans and insights the architect is flaunting. The Agents didn't realize Mr. Anderson's value or he'd be dead in that interrogation room. They are just small programs, not machines per se. Same with the hunter/killer squids, they are just dumb tools.
The machines aren't gifted with clairvoyance or prescience either, the Oracle knew about Neo's future and actions because they were inside the matrix (her world) and because she had been there with the previous "One's". Plus she's an old program herself so she can probably see the matrix-world in raw code as well.
The humans' options are of course limited due to their tactical, numeric and technological disadvantage. The thing that separates humans from these machines are their free will, their hope and most importantly, their randomness and unpredictability.
And the singing meat.
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