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Well the silly "expanded universe" stuff after Heir To The Empire (lucas actually personally read and aproved that series) also includes the comics where Mace Windu is still alive and kicking post RTOJ. ...I just don't see Mace surviving the next movie. ....and all this stuff happened before: remember the Han Solo books? The Marvel Comics? All crap now.
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: And as to whether the Spaarti are another race or not is not really important. My point was that the Kaminoans are surely not the only race in the galaxy with the capability to produce clones. They just happen to specialize in this as a planetary industry. -MMoM
That much was implied within AotC itself; DEX: "...they're cloners, good ones..."
This line implies that there are other cloners out there who aren't so good and perhaps some that are even better.
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What was with all the droid refrences and inuendo in that scene? It seemed that a subplot was dropped from the movie but left in that one part...?
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They did film a scene where Kenobi went to the Jedi analysis droid with the saber dart before Dex, it was dropped because it was somewhat redundant. As for the "droids thinking" line, I suppose it was meant as a tie in with the Kameno's claim that clone are superior to droids because they can think creatively, something that is reinforced in the novelisation during the battle of Geonosis.
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Well the silly "expanded universe" stuff after Heir To The Empire (lucas actually personally read and aproved that series) also includes the comics where Mace Windu is still alive and kicking post RTOJ. ...I just don't see Mace surviving the next movie. ....and all this stuff happened before: remember the Han Solo books? The Marvel Comics? All crap now.
I haven't read SW comics in a long time, but in regards to the Mace Windu thing, I think you're probably referring something out of Star Wars Tales, a comic series that is part of the ongoing Infinities line. This collection of material is printed under this logo with the tagline "The World of Endless Star Wars Possibilities" and was begun for the specific purpose of creating a forum for writers to do stories that didn't necessarily jive with the "overall continuity" (LucasBooks' term for 'the canon') of the SW universe. This is a unique part of the Expanded Universe in that it deals with things like alternate timelines or versions of events, farcial stories such as "Skippy the Jedi Droid" and the like, and in general scenarios that might or might not have "actually" happened. It's comparable to DC Comics' Elseworlds line. So whether its stories conflict with the films or with other EU material is a non-issue, since it's not real anyway.
And I'll stand by my earlier statement that the prequels haven't clashed irreconcilably with any part of the legitimate Expanded Universe. You should check out the new version of The Essential Guide to Characters to see how they've managed to ingeniously smooth out some of the apparent minor discrepancies between sources while still maintaining believability.
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I gotta pass on that one: a fellow illustrator friend of mine made several illustrations for one of the Star Wars scourcebooks and we were debating how to pose the "Darkforce Dragon" that a five (?) year old Jaycen is fighting off with Luke's lightsaber......that idea really killed any chance of my reading anything past Zahn's initial trilogy (and that was great to read). It seems to me that the expanded universe stuff and the comics and RPG has been given a very free hand to do whatever they want and not much creative oversight as long as it all adds to the hype for the prequels. Just my observation mind you, but Lucas was soooo controling about that kind of thing for years and then the new movies are announced and POOF! A dozen comics/novels/RPG/Props etc. Just to keep SW on everyone's lips.
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A five year old swinging a lightsaber? or a nine year old flying a podracer at 400+ KM/H, and winning?
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: I think you're probably referring something out of Star Wars Tales, a comic series that is part of the ongoing Infinities line. This collection of material is printed under this logo with the tagline "The World of Endless Star Wars Possibilities" and was begun for the specific purpose of creating a forum for writers to do stories that didn't necessarily jive with the "overall continuity" (LucasBooks' term for 'the canon') of the SW universe. This is a unique part of the Expanded Universe in that it deals with things like alternate timelines or versions of events, farcial stories such as "Skippy the Jedi Droid" and the like, and in general scenarios that might or might not have "actually" happened. It's comparable to DC Comics' Elseworlds line.
This explains the extremely enjoyable story I read where Yoda and Mace Windu are at a diner that gets held up by thieves.. though they didn't go so far as to have him say 'it's the lightsaber that says "bad muthafucker" on it.'
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quote:Originally posted by Da_bang80: A five year old swinging a lightsaber? or a nine year old flying a podracer at 400+ KM/H, and winning?
Good point, but "darkforce dragons" is just so far into fanboy stupidity that I just refuse to waste the time. I could be doing something far more entertaining: like staring into the sun.
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On the question of whether Stormtroopers are clones, I'm saying no. We know that the Imperial Army and Navy are not clones, since we see the officers' faces. So why should the Stormtrooper Corps be different? And IIRC the black-uniformed officers are promoted Stormtroopers, and clearly they're not clones.
And after the Clone Wars, there's no longer any need to clone soldiers. Palpatine went to Kamino and had clones made because he needed an army built up secretly and relatively quickly. He couldn't gather and train a sufficiently large army through conventional means without people noticing, so he resorted to clones. As that's no longer an issue after the Empire is established, there would be no reason to continue with such expensive procedures.
Moreover, it's just more logical to draw the 'troopers from the general populace of the Empire. If nothing else, it puts millions upon millions of citizens to work for the Empire. If all those Stormtrooper positions are being held by clones, that leaves you with millions upon millions of normal humans who might find other, more seditious things to do with their time.
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Holy shit...this takes the prize for olderst ressurected thread of the year thus far.
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No, this does. Although this is a good runner-up.
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Fuck it: I'm bringing back the Ambassador thread: I've re-fallen in love with that ship since building a new model of one this week.
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