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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
So the kaminoloids opened a casino?

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Not necessarily. IIRC cloning was outlawed within the Republic. (Which of course soon after became the Empire.) Kamino may exist outside of this political sphere. In fact, it seemed to be implied in AOTC that this was indeed the case.

And obviously, the Kaminoans aren't the only people in the galaxy that know cloning technique---there are also the Spaarti, whose technology the Emperor used to clone himself in later years---they just happen to be considered the best for the job of creating the Army of the Republic at the time the film occurs.

As a sort of possible compromise, I could believe that there might still be a core of cloned soldiers "protecting" the central systems and other important points around the time of the original trilogy, supplemented by draftees/recruits in more remote locations such as the Outer Rim, etc.

-MMoM

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
...and the next movie will likely invalidate the later novels anyway.

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I have no idea what your basis for this statement is, but so far the prequels have done pretty much NOTHING to contradict any "expanded universe" material in any serious way. Every point that's been brought up in relation to this can be fairly easily rationalized.

And as to whether the Spaarti are another race or not is not really important. My point was that the Kaminoans are surely not the only race in the galaxy with the capability to produce clones. They just happen to specialize in this as a planetary industry. There's ZERO reason why---if for some reason the Kamino cloners were to be shut down---clones couldn't still be manufactured from another source, whether illegally or not.

-MMoM

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Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:

And as to whether the Spaarti are another race or not is not really important. My point was that the Kaminoans are surely not the only race in the galaxy with the capability to produce clones. They just happen to specialize in this as a planetary industry.
-MMoM

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Well the silly "expanded universe" stuff after Heir To The Empire (lucas actually personally read and aproved that series) also includes the comics where Mace Windu is still alive and kicking post RTOJ.
...I just don't see Mace surviving the next movie.
....and all this stuff happened before: remember the Han Solo books? The Marvel Comics?
All crap now.

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I haven't read SW comics in a long time, but in regards to the Mace Windu thing, I think you're probably referring something out of Star Wars Tales, a comic series that is part of the ongoing Infinities line. This collection of material is printed under this logo with the tagline "The World of Endless Star Wars Possibilities" and was begun for the specific purpose of creating a forum for writers to do stories that didn't necessarily jive with the "overall continuity" (LucasBooks' term for 'the canon') of the SW universe. This is a unique part of the Expanded Universe in that it deals with things like alternate timelines or versions of events, farcial stories such as "Skippy the Jedi Droid" and the like, and in general scenarios that might or might not have "actually" happened. It's comparable to DC Comics' Elseworlds line. So whether its stories conflict with the films or with other EU material is a non-issue, since it's not real anyway.

And I'll stand by my earlier statement that the prequels haven't clashed irreconcilably with any part of the legitimate Expanded Universe. You should check out the new version of The Essential Guide to Characters to see how they've managed to ingeniously smooth out some of the apparent minor discrepancies between sources while still maintaining believability.

-MMoM

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Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
I think you're probably referring something out of Star Wars Tales, a comic series that is part of the ongoing Infinities line. This collection of material is printed under this logo with the tagline "The World of Endless Star Wars Possibilities" and was begun for the specific purpose of creating a forum for writers to do stories that didn't necessarily jive with the "overall continuity" (LucasBooks' term for 'the canon') of the SW universe. This is a unique part of the Expanded Universe in that it deals with things like alternate timelines or versions of events, farcial stories such as "Skippy the Jedi Droid" and the like, and in general scenarios that might or might not have "actually" happened. It's comparable to DC Comics' Elseworlds line.

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