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a) I doubt that George Lucas places much personal emphasis on keeping his movies consistent with the books. b) IIRC, the Zahn books don't really go into detail on the actual origin of the cloning cylinders, just that they were "an interesting little bit of technology" that the Palpatine had stashed away. For all we know, he wiped them out and stole their technology later on.
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Stormtroopers being clons of Jango makes sense only of Jango had some kind of severe nearsightedness that the helmet compensated for and he was too proud to tell the Kaminoloids. That would at least explain why the Kamino troopers are kicking ass in ATOC and Stormtroopers can't hit Han and Chewie from five feet away.....
Besides, at least some of the Imperials have to be conscripted or voulenteer: the officers certainly are'nt clones and the few times we hear stormtroopers talking, they have seperate and diffrent voices. I think George is just making this stuff up as he goes along. Making all the Stormtroopers clones also lessens the value of their lives: several hundred thouusand of wich are lost between the destruction of both Death Stars and the Executor.
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Bah, I still think the authors of the books do a better job than Lucas at making Star Wars so great.
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I believe the idea that the Stormtroopers are clones has been knocking around since at least the early drafts of ESB. I forget the exact quote but some of the early character notes on Boba Fett has him as a "Relic of the Clone Wars" who left the Stormtroopers to become a bounty hunter for some reason, I think it was because he had some abnormality (for a clone) that made him too independent to be a Stormtrooper. Lucas does mention most of this on the DVD commentary IIRC, this could also be the source of some of the supposed Fett background stories that have appeared in the novels an comics over the years. I remember one of them had him as a Stormtrooper who deserted after killing his superior officer. While this doesn't necessarily mean that all the Stormtroopers seen in the old trilogy were Jango clones, it is certainly implied.
Two things you might want to consider;
1) Assuming the classic trilogy Stormtroopers were infact conscripts or volunteers, where did they all come from and how did they become so loyal to the emperor to the point of fanaticism?
2) What happened the 1,000,000+ clones after the war? They obviously won and presumably killed all the Jedi too so it's unlikely that they were all wiped out. I suppose that the survivors could have gradually been replaced by conscripts as time went on so by the time of ANH they were all either dead or retired. That is assuming of course that no more clone batches were made after the war was ended.
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Mabye there's a whole planet of identical over the hill Jango clones passivly awaiting new orders from the Empire......or mabye they kept the accelerated aging and croak at 45 or something. mabye the Kaminoloids will save the day with a built in self destruct or something in Ep.III.
I think conscription is completely feasable. Good propaganda plus a high Imperial standard of life and training would make for lots of willing conscripts. Was'nt Han supposed to have been an Imperial pilot prior to rescuing Chewie? Not canon, I know, bit we do know that luke was gonna join up for Imperial flight school....
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quote: how did they become so loyal to the emperor to the point of fanaticism?
Who is to say that they are? The only thing Stormtroopers are ever heard talking about amongst themselves is the latest trendy sports-vehicle. Hardly a foundation on which to build a theory of complete devotion.
As far as I can see they're just regular grunts in weird looking suits.
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Sure, when they're trying to let someone get away.
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