A 46 years-old internet veteran bested by a 13 years-old kids...
~sigh~
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posted June 23, 2001 04:34 AM
I don't think I'll buy any more Windows products after reading this. Win98 is good enough for me.
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posted June 23, 2001 04:50 AM
It seems that the modes of attack have been getting more advanced that the protections.....
"Jeez, what a worthless cop/teacher/person, getting bested by a 13 year old with a gun...."
The idea is the same, the level is different....
Then there is this kids mother, "Oh, little Johnny, oops, I mean Wicked, is soo good at doing internet attacks. Why, just this past week he's attacked grc.com and kept knocking them offline...."
Both scenarios need more perantal supervision....
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posted June 23, 2001 05:35 AM
I think there's quite a bit of differnce.
With a gun, all you need to do is aim and pull the triger.
With a computer, you need to learn how to hack, where to hack, and make your own tools to hack.
Although the kid didn't wrote his own "bots", Steve Gibson did say that he "hex edited" it, and I think that's pretty impressive for a kid his age, and terrified that he's using it for crime.
-------------------- "George Washington said, 'I cannot tell a lie.' Richard Nixon said, 'I cannot tell the truth.' Bill Clinton said, 'I cannot tell the difference.'"
-- comedian TOM SMOTHERS, from his latest stage act with brother DICK SMOTHERS.
posted June 23, 2001 05:38 AM
Not really, I was hex-editing within the first 6 months I had my 8088 system, getting games to change icons and what not....
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posted June 23, 2001 05:43 AM
Children need to learn self-discipline at an early age.
The epithet 'script kiddie' is nothing to commit a federal crime over.
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posted June 23, 2001 06:07 AM
*raises an eyebrow* There are epithets worth committing federal crimes over? I must learn them and use them
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posted June 23, 2001 08:07 AM
"I don't think I'll buy any more Windows products after reading this. Win98 is good enough for me."
Of course, it is. Just as DOS was good enough for everyone back in 1993. And Windows 95 was good enough for everyone back in 1997.
All play to you if you chose to never upgrade your system. Just don't expect it to be running much in half a dozen years.
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posted June 23, 2001 01:36 PM
Well that was long, but I found it to be informative none-the-less. I'm also amazed how quickly and how much info this guy learned. I've always been interested in how hacking worked.
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posted June 23, 2001 03:17 PM
Well DUH! *just joking*
Steve Gibson is THE MAN when it come to internet security.
He's pretty good with software programming too, but I dought he's the absolute best when it comes to programming.
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-------------------- "George Washington said, 'I cannot tell a lie.' Richard Nixon said, 'I cannot tell the truth.' Bill Clinton said, 'I cannot tell the difference.'"
-- comedian TOM SMOTHERS, from his latest stage act with brother DICK SMOTHERS.
posted June 23, 2001 05:09 PM
The ironic part is, the kid was getting so upset over the term "script kiddie"... He is a script kiddie...
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posted June 24, 2001 07:21 AM
I have a feeling that Charles and the combined talent of the other gurus here could handle a puny little sucker like this kid.
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posted June 24, 2001 07:32 AM
Not necessarily. He may not know what he's doing, really, but he's got scripts to do all the work for him. I mean, look at what he managed to do to one of the premiere Internet security gurus out there. He might suck, in and of himself, but, if he's got a user-friendly enough program, it doesn't matter how dumb he is.
It's like this. Take someone who knows almost nothing about computers. Set them down at a DOS or UNIX prompt, and, sure, they won't be able to do anything. That's like a script kiddie left to his own devices. Now, set that same nearly-computer-illiterate person in front of Win98 or MacOS, and they'll be able to do a lot more. That's like a script kiddie who has access to the right scripts.
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