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I'm working on deck plans for the Constellation class, IMO one of the most underated designs. I have a problem with deciding on the number of decks. Jackill gives a total of 28, which jives with the Constitution's 21 or 22. However, it's totally off base with the Intrepid's deck height. One thing is for sure, given the FF line schematics of the Constellation, it definitely is in the 306-315 range, which is equivalent with Jackill's estimate.
I already have a MSD based on the more accurate FF diagram, and have the basic outlines of all 28 decks. But I'd hate to start and find out there are only 15 decks (like some websites have estimated). Any thoughts?
Ben
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Well, for one thing the nacelle supports do NOT have decks -- they're too small. So at 315 meters (the length according to Bernd) it should be 11 decks.
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The Fantastic Four do starship schematics now? Surely they're too busy saving the world from evil and shit? Although Reed could probably knock up a few new starship designs during a lunch break.
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That was cheese. I'd even go so far as to say in a can. In a can. There.
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Actually, the supports are large enough to contain compartments, especially with the photon torpedo launchers on the highest and lowest decks. Here is the base for my MSD - it is Jackill's decks re-aligned with the FF corrected outer hull outline.
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I'd also conclude that the pylons transport torpedoes to the launchers. I had a dream before, a short 3d-movie showing the constellation firing from all four launchers, in the same speed as scott's salvo in ST:III. It would make for, like, 8 torpedoes per second. In other words, a damn gunship!! And with the updated photon-torp's of 2376, it'd be nifty, even though the hull probably is wafer-thin compared to, say, a Defiant.
But since the constellation was a science-vessel the launchers were probably configured to eject probes and stuff... The crazed Jean-Luc never fired torpedoes in "The Ship", did he? Hmph!
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Looks pretty groovy. 28 decks just seems like too many for a ship that size though. How many decks did the Ent-nil have?
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Both the original and the refit Constitution-Class starships had 22 decks, I believe.
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Well, if a Connie has 22 decks with the secondary hull, I would think that the Constitution would have less than that. I know it's a thicker saucer, but there's no sec. hull. I'd say 15 decks tops.
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Um...I don't think there's 4 torp tubes. I think there's only 2, at the base of the lower pylon. Can't ever remember seeing dorsal tubes ever.
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My schematic is based on Bernd's external side view -- I took the outline and filled it in. The estimated length is 315 meters for the whole ship, based (I think) on comparisons with the Enterprise-D. We come up with a figure of 11 or 12 decks, assuming a deck height of 3.5 meters.
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