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Harry
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What's your opinion about MP3/Napster?

Napster recently cut off 300000 members, because Metallica sued (SP!?!? I can pronounce the word, but I've never actually written it...) them. They say that MP3 poses a threat to the music industry

Limp Bizkit, The Offspring and Public Enemy are supporting Napster (YES!!) and PE actually has run a contest in wich yiu can write lyrics concerning MP3 for their new song!

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Well, distributing MP3s encoded from CDs is pretty much illegal, and hurts the musicians. OTOH, it's not necessarily Napster to blame, and I think they did the right thing in cutting off those members.

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First of Two
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I...

I...

*gack, choke*

I agree with Frank!

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Curry Monster
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Well, commercial nonsense aside, its possibly the best program I have ever come across. Losing something like it would be a blow to any kind of free underworld

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Sol System
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Yes, illegal trading of MP3's has so damaged the recording industry that CD sales were up 8% last year.

And some humor: An Open Letter From Metallica.

(And yes, the eight percent figure is just hearsay at the moment, until I can find it again.)

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"Oh, it's an anti-anti-WTO song. It's essentially a pro-Starbucks song. I saw this picture of a guy sticking his foot through a plate-glass window in a Starbucks in Seattle, and he was wearing a Nike. Man, couldn't you just change your shoes?"
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Sol System
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Look, real figures! Confusing, but anyway. As reported by the Recording Industry Association of America.

The amount of CD's produced increased by 10.8%, from 847 million to 939 million. Sales increased by 12.3%, from 11.4 billion dollars to 12.8 billion.

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"Oh, it's an anti-anti-WTO song. It's essentially a pro-Starbucks song. I saw this picture of a guy sticking his foot through a plate-glass window in a Starbucks in Seattle, and he was wearing a Nike. Man, couldn't you just change your shoes?"
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Sol System
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While I'm at it, a few other resources.

The RIAA's Napster FAQ

Chuck D speaks his mind

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As many people as were at Woodstock are trading their music, and all they can do is bitch. For some reason, the term "money-hungry morons" comes to mind...

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Well, you know, we do have laws. You can change the laws, but you can't break them.

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Harry
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More people need to copy and rip CDs, so salews will go up. Mp3 is a good thing

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If you want to get your soul to heaven,
trust in me.
Don't judge or question.
You are broken now,
but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.
Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.
Let me lay my holy hand upon you.

-Tool, "Opiate"
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Curry Monster
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Well, just because its a law does not mean it is a just one. Now I know people can't go around breaking the law just because it inconveniences them, but as I see it, in cases like this, if companies were to make things more affordable / easier to access people would not bother to go for 'illegal' alternatives.

Either way, all corporations could do with a massive kick up the arse. The idea of the free market is for the consumer to have final control. And guess what, here we are exercising it.

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If it's not a just law, then have it changed. That's generally the only valid option.

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First of Two
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I see nothing morally different between trading in music you copied without paying for it, and, say, copying and posting to your site somebody's self-created, long-sweated-over trek images without their permission.

Both are the perview of the people we generally refer to as 'scum.'

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PsyLiam
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So would now be a good time to admit that I copied Windows 98 off of a friend?

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And, thanks to you, software prices are twice what they could be.

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John Linnell: "It's one of those year 2000 problems."


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