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Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs
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Not for him. Huh huh.

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All of which would be true, if the equation music=software was valid.

However, the RIAA has so far failed to show any qualitative difference between MP3's and cassette tapes. (Ignoring for a moment my apparent inability to remember how to spell cassette...) And cassettes were heralded as the death of music when they were new, with many of the same arguments.

Personally, I disagree with the RIAA that its main goal is to ensure the copyright of the artist. From my point of view, their sole interest is to preserve the Radio/Wal-Mart monolith. When music is distributed outside the traditional corporate structure, it isn't the artists who are hurt, it's the suits.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm free market all the way, baby. I don't even think that the aforementioned "suits" are evil. But they are currently engaged in a business model that is strangling American music. Ultimately, I'd like to see the whole system die a screaming death. But I don't think MP3's or Napster will lead to this, just as cassettes haven't. I'm willing to bet, barring recession or wholesale economic crash, that album sales will continue to rise this year, even with all those mean folks stealing music.

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lmao. You think they would drop prices if we stopped? Anyway ol chap, that's the whole point. Refuse to pay ludicrous prices. Take the generally used office software. Over here you are looking at $500 for the lot. Bugger me if I A) have that kind of money B) am going to pay for it.

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Well you know it's nice that the RIAA doesn't like folks who break the laws, perhaps they should check there own members first, well because they been bad little boys http://www.rapidcontent.com/radiofreecash/articles.phtml?a=391cab75.4d13.27&c=rollingstone.music_news.ft&d=20000512

Well, Well maybe if the Record companies act using legal pratices maybe I would care a bit more about Napster (btw I was one of the 350,000 people banned from the use of Napster)

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Daryus: Theft is theft.

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You should watch Les Miserables, Frank.

Some of us need to burn Windows 98 to feed our starving family as well.

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Tell me something Frank, if a loaf of bread is overpriced, and a man takes it, would you crucify him? The oh so great market is not forcing the companies to come to an acceptable equilibrium price. Thus the industrious are pivoting within the existing system to achieve their goals. Its nothing new.

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Again, breaking the law destroys societies. If you don't like a law, get it changed.

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Perhaps this is our way of getting it changed. Think about it: MP3 as a form of civil disobedience. *grin*

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Uh, that's not how you change laws...you're supposed to call up the members of Congress and complain loudly.

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Curry Monster
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Yeah, go through the beaureaucrats. That really works. Nope, if you want it to change you have to do something to make them take notice. Not spend your time holding the line. By the way, you can go ring a congressman, what impact will that have on me over here?

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Plus, who am I actually taking money off of? You think that I can afford �300 to but Office 2000? Bugger me if I can.

I, personally, don't think that computer games are overpriced. Look, TIE Fighter cost �40 when it was released. The average price of PC games today is �30-�35. At the start of the 90s, it was �30 for an Amiga game, which had far less manpower behind it. So I'm perfectly willing to pay for PC and Playstation games.

However, don't you think it's strange that the unpiratable cart based systems, such as the N64, have games costing almost twice as much? If no-one's copying them ,how comes they don't cost �20?

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"Nope, if you want it to change you have to do something to make them take notice."

Like replace the government.

"Plus, who am I actually taking money off of?"

The people who pay full price for the software.

Computer games don't cost much because their target market is consumers, not businesses.

People do copy N64 games to use for ROM emulators.

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"'Plus, who am I actually taking money off of?'
The people who pay full price for the software."

Well, sometimes it's costly to follow your morals. I guess you'll just have to consider it a victory in principle...

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Here's an idea. Since you're so set on paying, have a monimal fee. Say $10. For business charge, for personal use....don't.

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