Saiyanman Benjita
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Sorry buddies, but I'm gonna have to side with Frank on this one. The whole reason we have these laws is to protect everybody. That includes the consumers. The theft of copyrighted material hurts the Company and the Dealer (who have to sell 50 units for each unit stolen to break even), It hurts the consumer (Paying $800-$1000 for Office 2000, when it could cost only $200-$300), and it hurts the Economy.
And... Did you ever notice... Most people who are caught stealing, aren't stealing things they need? You don't necessarily need to download the latest Metallica song (mostly because Metallica sux), You don't really need Office 2000 (It would be nice, but you don't need it.). Theft of copyrighted material causes prices to skyrocket.
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That's because in this day and age, virtually no one NEEDS to steal anything to survive, at least not in our enlightened western capitalistic cultures (where some people make more in a day BEGGING than I do working). The culture that bred events like those depicted in "Les Miserables" is no longer prevalent, nobody NEEDS to steal a loaf of bread anymore.
It's a simple matter of greed, and the rationalizations I've heard in this thread trying to cover that are intensely amusing.
"I'm not willing to pay that much for this!" "Then do without it." "But... I WAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT it!"
Crybabies.
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Yes, well... If the people we're hurting are those who pay full price for the stuff, and those people don't need the things they're paying full price for, we're not really hurting them. Sounds like any moral dilemma there was just went right out the window... :-)
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TSN, that made no sense. First of Two is entirely correct, IMNSHO. You want stuff that you can't afford, or don't want to pay for, and are trying to pretend that you're different from any other thief.
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Need I remind everyone that getting something without having to pay for it was one of the prime motivators behind the creation of the "I Love You" virus?
Not to mention Insurance Fraud (which only costs the rest of us about 50% of what we pay in insurance, because big companies pass losses, even PROJECTED, HYPOTHETICAL losses, on to the other consumers).
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Frank: What I'm pointing out is this... According to what was said here, the companies aren't "hurting" people by raising prices, because the software/music in question isn't a necessity of life. If someone doesn't like the price, they're free to do without. By that same principle, if pirating software/music causes prices to go up, the piraters aren't hurting anyone any more than the companies. So where is the moral obligation to not pirate?
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Erm, I just want to say that while I'm all for burning down the offices of record executives, my devotion to the cause is related to the very specific nature of the music business, and as such my views don't carry over to whatever issue X you'd like to raise.
Just so that when Gates' private detachment of Swiss Guard comes looking for TSN, they'll leave me alone.
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Oh, well. M.L. King and M.K. Gandhi were criminals, then, but what are you going to do about it? :-)
And, yes, I know that's not the same thing. Don't anyone go exploding over the comparison between civil rights and software piracy. And I know someone out there is thinking about it. So don't. :-�
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"In no sense do I advocate evading or defying the law...that would lead to anarchy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly, and with a willingness to accept the penalty." - Dr. Martin Luther King, writing from Birmingham prison in April, 1967.
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