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The359
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I just got back from the 4:10 showing of Nemesis, the earliest showing in the area, and first off, great film.

But anyway, I figured I should tell everyone about the new tech seen in the film, just like we do for every new episode of Enterprise, so here goes:

- New Tricorders. They basically look like overglorified PDAs. They no longer fold up like the previous ones, instead they are just one big flat screen with all the necessary buttons either on the screen, or on top in a little fold out sensor doohicky at the top. Some of the classic buttons from the old tricorders can be seen on this little piece, but the rest is fancy LCARS graphics.

- New Sickbay. Dumping the old Voyager set, this new very white set is circular, like the old one, with beds on the outside and the main surgical bed at the center. The old displays that used to sit above the bed are still there, but there are now cabinets next to each bed, I assume to hold supplies.

- The Argo. The vehicle, when driving, has a unique sound to it, especially when its shut off. Sounds like a reactor instead of a gasoline engine. The shuttlecraft is apparently damaged when Picard launches into it, but there are locking mechanisms that latch onto the wheels to help keep the vehicle in place during flight. We never see the cockpit.

- The Scimitar. One big bad mutha fugga. I can't remember the exact weaponry, but I at least remember hearing 27 torpedo launchers. And believe me, they are all used. The main weapon, however, uses Thadion (sp???) radiation that is fired from the Scimitar's wings, which actually split up into 5 seperate wings. The Thadion radiation literally turns people to stone. It is used in Shinzon's takeover of the Romulan Senate at the beginning of the movie. The Scimitar also has foldout reverse engines, which look a lot like a rocket engine. I'm guessing they're actually something akin to boosters to help the impulse engines reverse.

- Microtransporter. This must be something gained from the Dominion (most likely that Bug Sisko used). It's simply a small circular device with two shutters that expose a little red LED, and voila! You can transport the person its attached to. However, I don't know how exactly you can dictate WHERE you are transporting to (although the plot device seems to be in great control of it). LaForge has made it so Data can carry one in his arm.

- The Enterprise. As part of preparation for battle, we get to see the Enterprises weapon lockers, which are merely parts of the corridor wall which swing around and reveal two phaser rifles per wall section. Also, LaForge tests out force fields that envelope the warp core. Of course, they immediatly fail after the ship is attacked, so lot of good they were. The Enterprise also gets a new "warp jump" CGI, with the stretching of the ship being replaced by slight smokey contrails from the nacelles and then the usual starburst at the end. The Enterprise also happens to depleat her supply of photon torpedoes during the battle with the Scimitar (which is what leads Picard to ram the Scimitar). Unfortunatly, after ramming the Scimitiar and asking for the auto destruct sequence, the computer chimes in with "Auto destruct sequence is offline". Wonderful. Picard is also able to send text messages from the arm of his chair to the helm console, where he tells Troi to ram the Scimitar without having to say it. After Enterprise returns to Earth for repair, we get to see her with open paneling all over the place, which gives us a beautiful view of the warp field coils on one nacelle. Picard also makes a brief mention of the ship's Gym.

- The Voldare. Two Warbirds show up, one being the Voldare. Nothing really unique about them, we see them both attach the Scimitar in conjunction with the Enterprise. One is destroyed when the Scimitar cuts off its wing (which collides with the Enterprise), and the other (Voldare itself) is disabled and set adrift. The Voldare later sends shuttles to assist Picard after the Scimitar is destroyed. I should point out it appears the Scimitar set is the Voyager bridge, or at least the rear of it (where the Master Situation Display was).

- Other Stuff. Picard orders a defensive pattern Kirk-6 or something of that kind. New Work Bees are seen in drydock during the repair of Enterprise, they have the beds in the back similar to the Sphinx work pods seen in the TNG:TM. The Titan is not seen, neither are any ships in the fleet seen in Stellar Cartography (it indeed is USS Archer). Picard's laptop now slides vertically out of his desk, istead of the old one from FC that folded upward.

This is all I can remember at the moment, if someone else has seen it and wishes to point out what I missed, go right ahead.

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And was that other ship in the list really the Nova or another ship?

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As far as I could tell, it was definately Nova. They really flash past the names rather quickly.

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Riker orders Kirk-6 maneuver. The Valdore bridge was just the redress of the E-E bridge... or rather just the aft walls. No other Starfleet ships are seen. That means, no ships from the fleet, no Titan, no Hemingway (the ship that supposedly towed the E-E back home). CDR Madden is not seen. Neither is his former ship, the Talos. Wesley is seen, has no lines. Guinan is seen, has one ot two lines. No explanation of why Worf is back in uniform or anything about Wesley's appearance in the movie or in a uniform (he did look to be wearing just one pip). Janeway does indeed look to be wearing the three pip admiral pins. Why is it that only the helmsman was the only person to be blown out from the bridge? When the Scimitar pulls back from after being rammed by the E-E, we see the E-E her self had also been cut up by the ramming and that she's now missing some 5% of the front of the saucer. We see the torpedo launchers under the main deflector being used (don't recall them using the aft launchers under the fantail). The main shuttlebay door slides down to open. It does seem that aft torpedos are being fired from around the main shuttlebay area. Why didn't Picard call over to the fleet and ask for assistance during the battle? And seeing that Picard could have called over to them, why would it be the Hemingway that tows them back and not one of the ships from the fleet? And that's all that I recall for now.

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quote:
Why didn't Picard call over to the fleet and ask for assistance during the battle?
Plot device - the rift they are in blocks long range transmissions. Stellar Cartography went offline, Data explained, Picard bugged out, but just a bit too late. [Smile]

Beyond the whole deck 29 thing, I didn't spot much in the realm of bloopers.

I wish I had focused more on that ship name list, however... all I caught was the Archer. It's shown twice, very briefly... if anyone sees it again, PAY ATTENTION. [Smile] I recall both the Galaxy and Valiant, but I think we knew about them already.

Mad props to whoever made the call to make video transmissions actually *LOOK* like video transmissions - Janeway's in particular. Slightly grainy, lighting a bit too much... Very convincing.

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They were 40mins out from the Fleet when the Scimitar knocked the E-E out of warp. The battle took a LONG time, you'd think that the Fleet would have wondered why the E-E wasn't on time OR on their sensors and would have come looking for her. It would have been preferable for the Fleet to show up just before the Scimitar fires and beam Picard off before proceeding to blow it to hell. Would have had the nice side-effect of not having Data die AND we would have gotten to see more Starfleet ships...

You know what I realized watching this movie? I MISS the 24th century. The 22nd century SUCKS. It's all "Oooh, strange one-off aliens we've never meet and never will again" and "Don't let your dog pee on the alien-of-the-week's trees"...

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The Deck 29 thing really floored me! They guffed on it in FC and I can't believe they made the mistake again with an even higher number! AAGGHGHHHHHHH! There.

The other thing that really bugged me was Picard snapping a (probably) duranium-casing phaser rifle against a Reman's head. That thing should NOT have broken. They were hoping for a quick unthinking chuckle from the audience.

There were enough minor errors to keep me from jumping for joy when this was over. I enjoyed it, it was agood movie, but for a viewer like me, you have to also get the little things right too...like the Scimitar backing away and pulling herself free from the Enterprise...sorry, no friction or gravity is keeping Enterprise in place.

I also didn't like the Windows-based beveled buttons on the LCARS interfaces.

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Notice how most of the desktop monitors were exactly that - computer monitors? Mind you chrome-plated flatscreens, but nonetheless... Probably borrowed from the ENT sets.

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Yes, the buttons thing I did think was weird. The new weapons lockers were cool though.

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Yes, I saw USS Nova. I'm sure we covered all of the correct names. It will be the NCCs to get this time. They're in the background for a while, though blurred, but it's the first quick frame that show them in focus.

Next time I see the film, I'm lookin' for NCCs!

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When I watched the movie, I clearly saw USS Galaxy and the registry number. But I wasn't sure if I also saw USS Voyager and USS Titan. Oh well, we can find out later if I was dreaming them up. USS Valiant? It better not have the NCC-74215 registry next to the name.

Anyway, where did the quantum torpedoes go? And I thought that it was strange that the aft torps were launched from Main Shuttlebay's location. And why didn't Picard order the evacuation of the foward saucer areas before ramming the ship? And since when do 24th Century vehicles have wheels? Is Picard going retro like Tom Paris? Speaking of shuttles, why does the Argo have wings? It's like looking at a 24th Century version of the shuttles from Enterprise. What happened to the the other shuttles?

The new workbees look kewl though but not the PDA tricorders and phasers. If they needed to use a PDA tricorder, why not use the Sony Clie NX-V70? It's a clamshell like the FC tricorders but better looking than the ones used in this movie. Is it me or is it that the phasers, that also were shown in Voyager's episode Endgame, look like they had foil on the tip? What is up with that? Oh, and Deck 29... shouldn't where the Remans beamed onboard more like Deck 15? That Reman viceroy dropped a long way down from that deck. I doubt that the Sovereign Class has nearly 42 Decks like the Galaxy Class.

I shouldn't have drank that damn caramel machiatto before I saw the move again tonight. The movie was good and I still miss the 24th Century.

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The new LCARS and Shield displays rocked my world.


Oh, and the rest of the movie was FUCKING AWESOME. It roxored my boxors, etc.

God damn!!!

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A volley of quantums did fire from the saucer ventral launcher....all that was missing was an addition to the statement that they had no more photon torps available, should've been photons and quantums are empty....oh well, great movie minus the deck 29 thing.
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Regarding the Deck 29, and how the Viceroy could fall down a turbolift shaft if he was on the bottom deck, maybe the boarding party had gone up a few decks prior to being engaged by Riker, Worf, and Co.?

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It wasn't a turbolift shaft, it was a conveniently placed Death Star brand bottomless pit.
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