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You should first define True Christianity, and that, as you may be aware, is a small point of contention even among those claiming to be Christians.
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Still, I'm shocked that this has managed to stay as rational as it has. I am also mildly amused that the "God doesn't exist in any way, I am right, because I say so" people feel the need to proclaim that over and over again with almost...religious fevor. Does it make you feel better mocking people who do believe in God?
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: It is an affectation. Ignore it.
Still, I'm shocked that this has managed to stay as rational as it has. I am also mildly amused that the "God doesn't exist in any way, I am right, because I say so" people feel the need to proclaim that over and over again with almost...religious fevor. Does it make you feel better mocking people who do believe in God?
No. However, I rather enjoy mocking bigots, especially when they say religious beliefs cannot be called bigotry. I never said that all Christians are bigots or that even a majority are.
Hell, all I really wanted to know is if a certain homophobe thought that his "you can't call it bigotry when it is a religious belief" defense applied to those who used it as a justification for burning crosses on the lawns of people whose skin might be a couple of shades darker than theirs.
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To which the answer is that you are drawing a false parallel between disapproval of a lifestyle choice and hatred of someone's genetic makeup. There is zero similarity.
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quote:Originally posted by Omega: To which the answer is that you are drawing a false parallel between disapproval of a lifestyle choice and hatred of someone's genetic makeup. There is zero similarity.
"Disapproval"? Is that what you call it? Then let me ask you a question: is it your lifestyle choice to be a bigot, or just your genetic makeup?
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big�ot, n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
Since I have displayed no intolerance, simply disagreement, the only answer to your question can be "no".
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quote:Originally posted by Omega: To which the answer is that you are drawing a false parallel between disapproval of a lifestyle choice and hatred of someone's genetic makeup. There is zero similarity.
Are we back to that "choice" silliness again? No one chooses what they're sexually attracted to.
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We appreciate your concern. It is noted and stupid.
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Ladies, please. Is this gonna have to be moved down to the flameboard?
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quote:Originally posted by Omega: Just because some guys claiming to be Christian did damage in the past doesn't mean you should write us all off.
In the past? See: Pat Robertson
Just because the majority of Christians consider themselves to be "right" and "tolerant" sure does not mean that those who differ from your viewpoint should automatically trust you.
Nobody thinks of themselves as being wrong about anything their god (supposedly) approves of, so religion has become a crutch to sway and motivate believers to hate whatever their religous leaders want them to hate/discriminate/disapprove of.
In short: The masses are asses. Indivudals are smart, people are dumb. Treat each person as their own little universe with unique quirks and standards and don't judge them based on your own rules. Or kill them. Witchever.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Nobody thinks of themselves as being wrong about anything their god (supposedly) approves of
False.
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Site an example where you'd be at odds with the christian God's direct spoken word (assuming you're jewish, christian or any of the refits, variants or kitbashes thereof).
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Are we back to that "choice" silliness again? No one chooses what they're sexually attracted to.
Again with the use of non-synonymous terms interchangably. Please don't do that. Again, for future reference: lifestyle != attraction.
Just because the majority of Christians consider themselves to be "right" and "tolerant" sure does not mean that those who differ from your viewpoint should automatically trust you.
I didn't say you should. I said you shouldn't let your prejudices get in the way of rational thought. If you're going to judge ME, or some other Christian you know, or our beliefs in general, don't judge Pat Robertson or Torquemada and simply transfer that judgement to someone else who happens to have the same name.
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"Again with the use of non-synonymous terms interchangably. Please don't do that. Again, for future reference: lifestyle != attraction."
Ah, so while you don't have any problems with homosexual attraction (it being part of someone's genetic makeup and all), you just don't agree how they express their feelings?
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