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Almost but not quite there...going through the DS9 Companion I found reference to these three ships that seemed to have been cut in either the final draft or tv edit (the Hawk reference, by far, is the most interesting).
From "Business as Usual":
quote: DAX The Vulcan science vessel T'Pan is requesting permission to dock.
KIRA Put her at Docking Bay Three.
DAX The Wellington has finished refueling. It should decouple within the hour.
KIRA Got it.
From "Resurrection":
quote: WORF (telling story) I was seventeen and serving as an ensign on the U.S.S. Hawk. We were two days out of port when this anomaly hit us --
Found these nuggets interesting, thought I'd share.
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quote:Originally posted by Captain Boh: So Worf started in Starfleet at 13?
According to his computer bio from "Conundrum" (TNG) he entered the Academy in 2357, at the age of 17. So it would appear that the Hawk was a training vessel.
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John M Ford's The Final Reflection (for a long time the definitive Klingon novel) has Klingons maturing faster than humans, so 17 would be early 20s in human terms. This is somewhat supported by Alexander's bizarre aging.
OTOH this early maturity was part of an overall shorter lifespan which is contrary to Koloth, et all still being around in the 2270s.
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Then again, perhaps no Klingon ever really got to test their "natural" lifespan before?
Having Worf be an ensign at seventeen, at an age when Picard wasn't even a cadet yet, is not objectionable per se. We don't know if there are entry age limitations in existence - we know Picard tried officer training at seventeen while others seem to have entered at eighteen, but that could be a mere coincidence, or something specific to human candidates.
The objectionable part would be having Worf spend so much time at these low ranks, if the references to his age during the shows hold true (he must have been at least six during the Khitomer massacre, etc). Then again, moving up from Ensign doesn't seem to be a major prestige issue in Starfleet, and might not have been one for Worf, either. Despite his obsession with the Klingon honor propaganda, he never appeared to be hungry for promotions. It could be that hunger for promotions ISN'T part of the propaganda version of honorable Klingon conduct, of course.
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I think the basis for Captain Boh's remark is that, so far as us civilians know, one gets to be an ensign after spending four years at the Academy. In other words, if Worf entered Starfleet at 17, he still wouldn't be an ensign until 21. And Star Trek has consistantly referred to Academy attendees as cadets, not ensigns.
I'm rather liking the idea that perhaps Worf was able to enter the Academy at a younger age because...again, of the Klingons faster rate of maturity.
Of course, it does contradict the "Conundrum" display...
However, consider his three-quarter Klingon son who could walk and talk rather coherently at age 1 ("Reunion" - 2367) and serving as a crewman aboard the Rotarran by age 8 ("Sons and Daughters" - 2374)!! Granted its a stretch but unfortunately that's the way it happened...
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: I should have checked through more scripts after you turned up that Garuda reference in "Shakaar" last year.
Speaking of the Garuda, I've seen something that says there was a Nebula-class ship in that episode, and that was supposed to be the Garuda. So, to anyone who has the episode--was there a Nebula in "Shakaar?" Is this one of those ships no one mentions because it was not listed on Joe Creighton's site, like the Nebula from "Doctor Bashir, I Presume?"
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There was no Nebula seen, although the script describes the Garuda as being "the same type of ship as the Prometheus", which was at that time a Nebula class ship.
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quote:The Chronology seems to indicate that was one...
Nope, only Crusher, Data, MacDuff, Picard, Ro Laren and Troi were shown.
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