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quote:
Originally posted by MarianLH:
Originally posted by MirrorCaptainMike:
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one thing i noticed when writing an article on rank in Star Trek:

we know that the rank of Lt. JG exists in Trek, we've seen the insignia on almost all the uniform design schemes, i've seen in mentioned in novels & publications, but is there any canonical mention of the term 'junior grade' ? in either dialogue or in a background readout somewhere??

Um, what else would it stand for? Juniper grove? Jaded geek?


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Erm, he meant all of the signs pointed to the existance of the rank...as in the pips and so forth...but was the term ever explicitly stated "Lieutenant Junior Grade" or even "J.G." in any episode...not what J.G. stood for... [Roll Eyes]


....which the Reverend of Soul just pointed out was said.

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When I was really little, I thought it was Janitor Grade
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So you just figured it out last year, didja? Good for you! [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
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Originally posted by Spike:
I always thought the British use "L'tenant" for Army officers and "Leftenant" for Navy officers.

Where on earth would you get a silly idea like that?
Sorry, got mixed up. The pronunciation "Leftant" is used for Army officers and "L'tenant" for Navy officers.

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quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
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Originally posted by TSN:
"Why does 'Lieutenant' always look wrong when spelled out fully?"

Because, inexplicably, the British think it has an 'f' in it?

I always thought the British use "L'tenant" for Army officers and "Leftenant" for Navy officers.

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So does the Dutch navy not have a commander rank at all? Does it go First Lt -> Capt-Lt -> Capt?
Yep.

http://www.rankinsignia.info/show.php?podkategorie=Vloot%20-%20Royal%20Netherlands%20Navy&stat=Netherlands&id=78

German Navy ranks are also odd compared to RN or USN ranks. They have Captain Lieutenant > Corvette Captain > Frigate Captain > Captain.

Around here, the navy has the ranks of: Ensign, 2nd Lieutenant, 1st Lieutenant, Corvette Captain, Frigate Captain, Ship(?) Captain (Capit�n de Nav�o).

Of course, "Ensign" replaced "3rd Lieutenant" a really long time ago in most navies. However, my original point is that graduated cadets attending command school may be addressed as something like that, since once they graduate from there they certainly won't become just ensigns...

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quote:
Originally posted by MirrorCaptainMike:

-> a rarely mentioned tidbit is that Peter Preston was supposed to be a 15 or 16 year old cadet in original drafts of TWOK, reinforcing the horatio hornblower influences on that flm...

According to the script, he was supposed to be 14, not to nitpick. [Smile]

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A 14 year old serving is idiotic.
Even 16 is really pushing it.

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Well, when they teach Calculus at... what 10? [Wink]
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I think that was drawing on the whole "Hornblower" thing with Middie's starting at 10 or so....

But it is silly.

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Marby there is some "Military School" arc to that or part of some Tech. Ed. classes or other program. It was a training cruise, afterall.

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Well, it isn't silly so much as it is historical and, if you prefer, anachronistic. (But then, anachronistic to today, or to the fictional future?)
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Stop being smart.
quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
Sorry, got mixed up. The pronunciation "Leftant" is used for Army officers and "L'tenant" for Navy officers.

Are you sure? I've never heard it.

"L'tenant" sounds French. And I don't think anyone says "Leftant".

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Well, since the word itself is French, I'd say they probably use the "lyoo-" pronunciation.
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I've certainly heard it pronounced something very similar to 'left handed'.

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Are you sure? I've never heard it.
Yep. It's mentioned on the RN homepage:
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/4754.html

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