Anton-class A recent WIP. I'm currently (slowly) redoing all my fandom schematics, using my all new Casimir-derived Constitution schematics. I tried my hand at the Anton, concentrating on making it slightly less ugly. It's still pretty weird though. That's why I'd like it to be a one-off frigate prototype.
Me have Illustrator CS to install today. Soon me am good drawer like you. Mabye I make a Chandley...
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Hey the new banners and markings on the Connie class make this design more 'accessible' to me - sorta brings it closer in-line with all the other ship's we've known - without having to add more hull detail or panelling etc etc.
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: Ye Gods, the Chandley is an abomination...
(...and so is the Anton.)
BLASPHEMER! I love the frog....er....Chandley! Those "shoulderpads" are barracks for starfleet marines. The ship knocks down an enemy's shields, mass transports 50-100 marines over and takes their ship by force. Good for all sorts of fun, really. Something Starfleet would have re-commisioned during Cardassian and Dominion wars.
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Far better than the FJ or SFB designs to be certain.
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Jason, I'm not sure if you noticed but your Chandley Frigate looks more like a Strike Carrier. Which still fits with the FASA concept.
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Yeah...the Chandley is really a bruiser for a supposed "frigate". It's stats far outshine a Connie Refit in later models.
I like the "strike carrier" concept for that era though.
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"Better than the FJ designs"? Surely you jest, Sir. The FJ designs are great. They showed that Starfleet would build ships efficiently, using a set of modular components rather than outlandish new hull configurations that were wildly different across classes.
FASA's general design ethic seems to have been to take a bizzare, unfamiliar shape and slap a saucer on the front of it and somehow attach some nacelles. No sense there, at all. Hate them. All of them. Will kill them. Bloodily.
And yes, SFB ships were terrible. But what can you expect from the 13-year-olds desigining the game in their garages and living rooms? The historically-popular fandom stuff is all crap.
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My pet theory concerning the Aurora is that it is a Tholian hull. The Tholians sold a number of their hulls to intermediary X (Orions, Nyberrite, whatever) and Tiburon bought a number of these (empty) hulls and transformed them into corvettes.
The rather 'Earthly' name of Aurora is due to the pilot being a space hippy. And space hippies are like, one step below evil alien nazis.
quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: "Better than the FJ designs"? Surely you jest, Sir. The FJ designs are great. They showed that Starfleet would build ships efficiently, using a set of modular components rather than outlandish new hull configurations that were wildly different across classes.
FASA's general design ethic seems to have been to take a bizzare, unfamiliar shape and slap a saucer on the front of it and somehow attach some nacelles. No sense there, at all. Hate them. All of them. Will kill them. Bloodily.
And yes, SFB ships were terrible. But what can you expect from the 13-year-olds desigining the game in their garages and living rooms? The historically-popular fandom stuff is all crap.
THe FJ designs lack all common sense: on the Saladin, there'd be no room for engineering and crew: so much for "modular efficentcy! They look exactly like what they are: cheap cut and paste rearrangments of the AMT model that kids could build at home from parts and scraps: it made them instantly popular but not very practical. It's silly to think that dozens of races would consent to use five or modular six ship designs when they probably had fleets of their own prior to joining the Federation. The FASA stiff makes sense because the times changed (to the TMP era) and the Fed designs should have changed accordingly as new member races were brought into the fold. Nothing is lamer than the constant re-use of the TOS and FJ designs in into the DS9 era: it's not as though the humans of Starfleet ship design could/would shut out all other cultural influences. Some of FASA's designs are Andoriuan in origin and that explains the more radical concepts (like the Thurfir and Andor classes).
The SFB stuff is indeed terrible and it's all (highly) derivitive of the FJ stuff. TOS ships just dont lend themselves to diversity when they all use the exact same parts.
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Hey. This is the DAC forum. And it's my thread. So no FJ-bashing in here!
There's no rule that says starships should look pretty. Take the Baton Rouge, Anton and Chandley for example. They look horrible, but they have a special place in the Trek legacy.
The most ridiculous designs ever IMHO are the TNG Officer's Manual things created by FASA. Only God knows what the hell was going on there.
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