Err.... I understand why they did a TMP DE, but what's wrong with TWOK? Honestly, I can't see any major advantages in new CGI or new music for TWOK. Perhaps a good CGI-scene of the crashed/landed Botany Bay, and CGI brainworms. Does anyone here know what exactly their planning to do?
And are they going to make DE's of every TOS movie? They could give III some better sound effects, and they should completely redo V, but what about the others?
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'Expanded cut', eh? That's probably the ABC version.
I don't know, it seems kinda nice to have DE's of all the movies. Kinda like SW's SE verisons. They might add some stuff here and there, better SFX and the like.
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I dunno... Unless the shots are really bad (for instance, ST:5), I don't really think that updated CGI is all that necessary. I think it's part of the character of the movie to have the contemporary effects -- which, I might point out, in TWOK's case have aged quite, quite well. Yeah, it's not as flashy as the stuff that they pack in these days, but it's detailed and very well done.
Still, a director's edition could still be a good idea, just to revisit some things about the movie. Although TWOK being my favorite of the TOS movies, I'm not entirely sure just what could be improved upon.
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Ummm...did anyone actually read the text? It refers to an expanded cut...it makes no mention of new effects or music.
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Indeed so. I do remember it mentioned elsewhere that none of the successors are planned for anything more than a Director's Cut treatment, and nothing in the new movie. With teh exception of ST5, you could easily say that none would need it.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a completely redone version of ST5, rockmen and all. I'm sure Shatner would love it, and given his relatively high profile these days it would make some sense.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the whole movie redone, script, SFX, story, director, redone. But they can keep the bridge though, that was perhpas the only good thing in the movie.
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That bridge was so clean, so antiseptic, and completely against the grain for its era. I was SO glad when they ripped off all the carpets and repainted it into something sensible. I personally disliked all the stations too, which had no character to them - Uhura and Spock were sitting at plain computer consoles with no binocular viewers or extending control panels or anything.
The ST5 bridge was supposed to link the TOS and TNG eras, but IMO it went way too much towards the latter - especially given that the set was redressed so many times as TNG-era bridges. You can keep it - gimme my E-B bridge any day.
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*sigh* Ah, Mark -- how we will always disagree on this matter. The TFF bridge is my all-time fav, for exactly the reasons you don't like it. And the later bridges from TUC and GEN I despise, again for exactly the reasons you like them. What's so appealing about diamondplate decking and a complete lack of warmth?
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Nope, we'll never agree. And that's what makes it fun.
Actually, I find the neutral grays and maroons of the TUC E-A bridge to be quite warm! It's the ST5 bridge that's cold - like Voyager's bridge, the palette is relatively monocromatic and lacking in character, which adds to the "warmth" you're talking about.
Basically explain the point. And from a movie production standpoint, the ST6 bridge highlights the characters better, as they tend to be the brighter spots on the bridge, as oppoed to the darker spots on the ST5 bridge.
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Well, there's always the fact that these DVDs, unlike the original releases, will likely have extras on them...
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Now that he's pointed out most of the obvious stuff, I suspect Okuda's commentary alone will be worth the price of the disc. Well, almost.
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I just hope they will bring out a Region 2 version of that DVD containing the same features as well.
And about the S.T. V and VI bridges: I like both of them, but I think the one in TFF doesn't fit the Ent-A, just as I think the TNG sets used in the movie don't fit at all. I just like the bridge as a set. Anyone else think that this TFF bridge would make a great bridge design for an Ambassador class ship? After all, it looks like the perfect "in-between" bridge on the way from Constitution-refit/Excelsior class to Galaxy class, doesn't it?
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