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Mark Nguyen
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According to IMDB:

TOS - 79 episodes
TNG - 178 episodes
DS9 - 176 episodes
VOY - 172 episodes
ENT - 98 episodes

Adding the ten movies, and excluding 22 episodes of TAS and various games, comics, etc., and you have 713 tech reports that have been made in SOME form over the years. It's been a grand ride, and it ends for the forseeable future with this finale. Love it, and leave it to history. In the meantime, look for:

-Various Enterprise upgrades made over the previous six years unseen. For starters, it seems that the bridge inherits the secondary comm strut that Columbia had (which is a good thing), but not her annoying pulsating lights (also a good thing). Anything else?

-Uniform stuff. We know that they've now got useless epaulets on the standard uniforms now (unless they're adding something to them eventually and Enterprise just hadn't gotten around to it), and they've added a standard Starfleet patch on the right shoulder. Patches aside, T'pol is the same as ever, it seems, and everyone's still the same rank. Any more?

-Archer finishes the episode in an until-now-unseen dress uniform, which is a new thing. Or is it? There don't seem to be as many zippers or buttons, so it may suggest an interm step to the more familiar uniforms of later eras. OTOH, he has two rows of four pips on it, which in combination with the piping suggests it's a flag uniform (and that Archer is now an Admiral in accordance with his bio from IAMD II). Given how skin-tight it is, I'd REALLY not like this to be a standard Admiral's uniform!

-Decommissioning tech. Besides the short mention in ST6, we don't really know how a "regular" decommissioning goes, since most Trek hero ships get blown up at the end of their careers. Enterprise is (surprisingly) going into mothballs with this episode, so what does that entail?

-The tidbits of TNG-tech, which will be a treat for us regardless of the contrivances of the plot. They've re-created the holodeck, some hallways, quarters, the conference lounge (with season 5-7 bulkheads, natch), and possibly Ten Forward. Will the re-creation be accurate enough? We've already complained about the colour of the Holodeck doors... What else will be seen, and will it add to the era we all know and love?

-The final montage, which combines the opening spiels of TOS and TNG with Archer finishing it off. Will you get misty? Or will you be looking at the wonderful CGI ships for the last time? Note that the E-nil will be the Defiant from a couple epsiodes ago, not changing all the numbers they should've. [Wink]

Bring it on!

Mark

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A closing montage?! Oh what the hell is that about? How about they just worry about wrapping up Enterprise satisfactorily and not putting a lid on the whole franchise.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
We've already complained about the colour of the Holodeck doors...

Actually, we decided in that thread (whichever one it was) that I wrong on the holodeck door color goof. The side of the doors facing the corridor are indeed orange while the side of the doors facing the holodeck are brownish-gray. I forgotten about that until someone in that thread corrected me.

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What might have made this worth the while is if they had showed a part of the E-D we had never seen before... instead of a bunch of stuff that we have. Dolphin tanks. Captain's Yacht. The closet full of bodies that Data was secretly collecting all those years.

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Hell, I wanted to see the bloody Main Shuttlebay actually on the Enterprise-D.

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I don't have a problem with them decommissioning the NX-class. Once the Federation is established they'll suddenly have access to all that lovely Andorian and Vulcan tech, which will mean much different requirements as to what they need in a ship. Far better to just start off from scratch. I don't know why (if we take that Archer bio with a pinch of salt) they'd wait 85 years to call another ship Enterprise, though. . .

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Mark Nguyen
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Crusty ol' Admiral Archer probably didn't want any new ship tarnishing his memory.

I can accept that they wanted to clean-slate the new Starfleet for political reasons, but that would suggest that there would have to be some sort of interm design in service by that point to take over the job. Possibly a joint design would have been premiered at the founding of the Federation or just shortly before it. Certainly they wouldn't recall all the NX class starships until they had something else out there...

Mark

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Well today's the big day, the last episodes of Star Trek. You know it's funny that this is the last day since in my highschool we were talking about death and how difficult it is to lose someone you love after spending soo much time with them for so many years and that got me thinking about Star Trek. Coincidence is a real biatch.
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Its been a good 18 years. What a bittersweet farewell.
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Yeah. This week, Star Trek ends. Next week, Star Wars ends. Let the commiseration begin!

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I just saw the episode... I am not sure if I'm numb or pissed. Maybe both since I'm still wondering what the hell was the Enterprise-D there.

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I'm halfway through. Please make it stop! This is utter and complete trash.

Sirtis and Frakes' acting reminds me of crappy fan movies. Troi was from Betazed, not England. And that bearded git is ruining all the scenes with our crew.

Talking about our crew, nothing has changed. No promotions, no transfers. Except that T'Pol has reverted into an ice cold Vulcan. She positively hates Andorians, and can't get along with Archer. And her relation with Trip hasn't really developed, it seems. She's never even met his parents, nor had any children with him.

Everything to do with ENT's characters is holographic. Freezing the program in the middle of lines is awful. And since I doubt the NX-01 recorded all the discussions with Chef, it's likely that they were only simulated by holodeck personas. In other words.. who the hell cares?

Trip's death was pointless and out-of-character. And they didn't even do anything with his death. So Riker watched him die first, and then chatted with him? That's a bit weird.

"End program" during Archer's critical claim to fame. Need I say more.

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Mark Nguyen
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Hey guys, there's a thread in the Enterprise forum for this. Tech discussions here!

Mark

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quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
Yeah. This week, Star Trek ends. Next week, Star Wars ends. Let the commiseration begin!

well now that two major sources of competion have died due to Right-to-Die nuts at FOX and Paramount, does that mean we're finally see the light of day for projects like, uh, a Battletech/ Dorkage series/film or, (after someone buys out Harmony Gold and kills it of course)...

a remake of anime/live action Macross?

But yeah, those fuckers pretty much ruined ST overall by assisted suicide at the very least, 1st Degree Murder at the worst.

fuck. [Frown]

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Hmm.. I thought I posted it in the right thread.

As for tech:

- There are now Warp 7 ships. No names given.

- Dough rollers are made from stainless steel. This is the future.

- No other obvious changes in equipment. Weapons and communicators are still the same.

- Sadly (or not), we don't find out who exactly are the founding members of the Federation. Tellarites and Andorians are mentioned.

- The Algeron Treaty of 2311 redefined the Neutral Zone and outlawed Federation cloaking devices.

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