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I don't think we'd ever seen "objective mode" in the holodeck before . . . though "observer mode" would've made more sense as the term for it. Or perhaps "offensive mode", but now I'm straying into a review. [Wink]

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Also, in the first Ten-Forward scene, what's up over on the left? Looks like Picard and Data are standing there talking to that Betazoid guy from "Menage a Troi", and there's even a Ferengi ship's crewmember sitting at the table.

(Checks "Menage a Troi" . . . oh wow. That scene is lifted entirely from TNG! They just replaced Lwaxana and Troi with Riker and Troi.

Impressive, but they left in Riker behind the Betazoid guy . . . he's playing chess with the Ferengi, and yet he's also over talking to Troi.

Now *that* is multitasking.)

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Mikey T
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Screencaps!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge:
Screencaps!!

Holy shit, this is scary as hell. [Eek!] [Eek!] [Eek!]

Here we have Riker and Troi (good work putting them in there, btw), and here we have Number One number two (good one, eh? [Roll Eyes] ), behind the three dudes to the left. I tried to capture a frame where you can also see the new one. And, believe me, I'll never be able to watch this scene again without noticing. Oh, and one of the three guys is actually Captain Picard himself, but you can't see him on this particular screencap.

So, if there are any special requests, tell me.

Before I forget, "Star Trek: Enterprise" never brought a tear to my eye, until the moment I saw her again, probably for the last time ever. Thought I should share that moment. This may not have been a good Enterprise episode, but it was a fine Star Trek episode for me. I wondered why they didn't use the E-E or the Titan for this episode, but maybe it wasn't a bad decision at all.

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Video from both eps:

http://www.st-v-sw.net/videos/ENT4-gumpTNG.avi

3ivx, 980ish kilobytes

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The giveaway was that all the NDs in the wide shot were in the season 1-2 TNG variant uniforms, of course. The "new" footage extras were all the collared variants.

All the TNG sets were probably mostly the result of cobbling bits and pieces together from whatever they had sitting in the warehouse, including wall parts, bulkheads, etc. The Ten Forward set was only a two-wall set, Troi's quarters were three walls, etc. The fore bulkhead and windows from the conference were probably all preserved from the TNG era - and the new stuff was partially concealed by the new lights, plants and wall decos that weren't ever there. Mr. Mott was obviously getting out of hand with his redecorations.

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- Manny Coto is in the crowd at the end as an Admiral.

- Admiral Daniels is the one who asked Archer to give a speech. I hope he's not an ancestor of that other Daniels. If Admiral Daniels was at the founding ceremony, too, it could give the whole "Zero Hour"-visit a whole new spin. Funnyly, this leads to...

-...Riker and Troi standing at the exact point where Daniels and Archer stood. Before we got that shot, we saw Troi just a couple of meters behind Hoshi, Reed and the others. Quite risky of Daniels to bring ZH-Archer to that location. All it would have taken to screw timeline was Hoshi turning around and seeing them sand there.

- I never thought I would say that, but we've got some new info on the Pegasus; 71 people died on that ship, and if we add the lucky few who escaped (I think they gave the number of survivors in the TNG-episode), we get the crew complement of the ship. Of course, about 80 people seems to be a bit high for an Oberth-class vessel.

- We also got some crew displays (I made some screencaps as well, but you really can't read anything. If anyone has this episode in HD-quality - I'm sure you do - we may get some interesting stuff.) The people who died aboard the Pegasus were Cmdr. Ronald Moore (probably the ship's second in command and the guy they named that Galaxy-class after [Wink] ), Lt. Dawn Velazquez, Crewman Eric Motz, Crewman Andy Simonson and Ensign Phil Wallace.

- They ressurected the display!

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You know, it brought a tear in my eye to see the Enterprise-D on the small screen again after all these years... the same goes for 1701. I was bit pissed that the doors in orange were a bit too bright... unless it is the same paint but different lighting setups that make it seem more garish for some reason.

Okay, the USS Equinox had about 80 people in her... what's wrong with the USS Pegasus having about the same amount?

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We never had an Oberth with so many crew on board. We even had ships with less than a dozen people. Plus - if this was supposed to be a secret experiment, why didn't they leave all the non-essential crew behind on the nearest starbase before embarking on the mission to test the cloak? Unless, of course, most of the crewmembers were Starfleet/Section 31 agents and/or mission specialists.

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In response to Kyle:

1. It was Admiral Douglas, not Admiral Daniels.
2. I highly doubt they would have put Daniels and Archer in that spot. Knowing Daniels, it was probably in another part of the building. Most likely in another quadrant of the building on another balcony so that none one would recognize them.
3. And the Tsiolkovsky had a crew of 80. So the Pegasus' crew number isn't unusual.

Oh, as for the Observation Lounge, it was most likely kept from it's appearance in Nemesis as the E-E lounge. (Well, as least the table and the back wall with the windows, don't remember of the chairs are the same).

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Re: The Pegasus crew manifest

It's actually a rather entertaining write-up in the spirit of other TNG-era gags:

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quote:
Originally posted by Dat:
1. It was Admiral Douglas, not Admiral Daniels.

I noticed upon the second viewing and came here to correct it. You're fast, that's for sure. [Smile]

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I can make out some of that readout. . . Transcript anyone?

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I can barely read what is on there... anyone care to email Mike Okuda for the transcript?

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This is what a 19" monitor is MEANT for. [Wink]

"...THOSE RUMORS, BUT STARFLEET INVESTIGATIVE SERVICES CLEARED HIM OF ANY WRONG DOING.

I WONDER IF THIS WILL BE READABLE IN HI-DEF?

AND THIS SENTENCE WILL TAKE US OFF THE END OF THE PAGE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT ENDS IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY IMPORTANT THOUGHT. UNREADABLE BIOGRAPHICAL TEXT GOES HERE. IT WOULD BE TELLING US VITAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE HANDSOME FELLOW PICTURED TO THE RIGHT, BUT LET'S FACE IT, WRITING ALL THAT UP FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON WOULD TAKE MORE TIME THAN I CARE TO SPEND. IN THE END, IT WILL BE SO SMALL, NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO READ IT.

INSTEAD, I WILL WRITE SENTENCES OF SUFFICIENTLY DIFFERENT LENGTHS SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE REGULAR ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

SEE NOW NICE AND SHORT THAT LAST SENCE WAS? THIS WILL BE A LONGER PARAGRAPH MADE UP OF SEVERAL SENTENCES, AS IF LISTING THE MANY AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE TOO-SOON-DEPARTED ENSIGN WALLACE. AFTER ALL, RIKER REMEMBERS HIM SO FONDLY HE MUST HAVE BEEN A PRETTY TERRIFIC GUY. I MEAN, SURE THERE WERE..."


Looks like whoever it was just wrote up a generic bunch of text, and stopped "scrolling" at certain points to make the readout look different for each person. For this last one he got to the end of the text, and hey, it was probably one of the last things he did before clearing out his desk...

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