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Da_bang80
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I like that idea!

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MinutiaeMan
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It's a shame that those three attempted American invasions of Canada during the War of 1812 didn't succeed... then we wouldn't have to worry about this issue at all! [Wink]

The idea of a unification of the USA and Canada is so ludicrous for several reasons, not the least of which is the simple fact that Canada would be dominated even more by the current USA states than it is now in terms of culture and economy. Currently, they've got status, a distinct identity in name, and an independent voice in world affairs. Why would they want to give that up?

I could possibly see the US and Canada merging under some kind of continent-wide union similar to what the Europeans are doing now in the EU, but even that would be extremely unlikely given the overwhelming dominance of the US. It's easier to set up a union in Europe because the founding countries that got the ball rolling were more or less equal.

Besides, even if Canada did try to join the US, we'd end up with Great Britain declaring war on us to make sure that the Queen doesn't lose any of the jewels of her crown. [Razz] (Kidding, kidding...)

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quote:
Originally posted by Vogon Poet:
I seem to remember one of the early Clive Cussler novels featured the recovery of a document signed by Lincoln or Churchill or someone like that (it's always 'someone like that' in his books) which ceded Canada to the US. Of course in Cussler's simplistic worldview the document is held to be valid 'today,' never mind the opinion your average Canadian might have about it.

"Night Probe," the 3rd Dirk Pitt book. Signed in 1914 by Clement Attlee & Harvey Shields. One copy was lost on the Manhattan Limited train wreck, another on the Empress of Ireland. Britain buried their copy. They reinstated an old-as-fuck James Bond to stop the anschluss!

I always thought that Canadians referred to us as "Upper Mexicans?"

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AndrewR
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United States of North Mexico?

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Kosh
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quote:

this was just a lighthearted post, all i wanted were reations, not an attack on my loose grammar...

Don't let it bother you. Eveyone that joins here gets it from someone.

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Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

I've never considered Canada the 51st state. They're the 51st through 63rd state.

Imagine, the Canadians would finally have what they've always wanted, the ability to strongly influence US policies at the most important level.

Canada won't join all at once, however. It'll most likely start slowly, with the economically depressed Maritimes. Ottawa has ignored them long enough.

And after this is complete, we move on northern Mexico. Half of them are here already, so why not?

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Mark Nguyen
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This would only ever seriously be considered if Quebec separates, which is becoming less likely as time goes on. And even IF this happens, it'd be a very slow and generally disliked process of necessity rather than choice. The only province which stands a chance of staying as an independent nation would be Alberta, 'cuz we're so frickin' rich. [Smile]

Mark

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Shik
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I always figured the middle provinces--Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba--would join first. For decades, they've had close ties with our wheat-producing states as well as the northern plains states.

The Maritimes would be next assuming Qu�bec decided to be stupid & hairy & arrogant & French (shocker that) & go it alone. If that were to happen, the MPs would be cut off form the rest of the Confederation, so it'd be in their best interest to join up; think of all the fishing rights! BC & Ontario would fall into line soon enough, there's really no difference between Alaska & the Yukon, & eventually Qu�bec would want in, too. I wouldn't, though. Nunavut could go independent for all I care.

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Alberta as a seperate nation is as plausible as Nobel Laureate Dustin Diamond.
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Sol System
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He will win the prize for literature in 2016. I am the new Newton!

Anyway, surely the typical Canadian reaction following the departure of Quebec would not be "Well, time to pack it in, then." but "Thank God."

But I kid the French and francophone nations.

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Mark Nguyen
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I'm a Vietnamese-Canadian born here to immigrant parents, living in Alberta, who speaks English and French fluently, but not much Vietnamese at all. Now, how Canadian is that? [Smile]

Alberta's got the oil. If anything, we're more comparable to Texas than to any of the granary states. And there IS in fact a small minority of separatists who gain note every now and then - most notably, when Canada accepted the Kyoto protocols. Alberta could be fairly successful as a country - sorta like Switzerland, but with more cowboys.

Mark

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The only reason the separatists gain note is because the SUN has nothing better to print. Except for the suspiciously clean and neat "Sunshine Boys." Not that there's anything wrong with that.

That, and the amazingly interesting news of Wally Buono's CFL adventures and whatever meagre whiny comments Klien has said today to further alienate himself from the east, would make for a tremendously boring country.

So, maybe Alberta can be the beginning of the new Middle West, but you know, man, it'd be boring.

Are there any good dollar stores in the South West that sell Knockoff Bruticus toys? If so, then I relike Alberta, and sign up for the seperatists.

But, I mean Cowboys and bad Hockey? Who would move here?

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Cartman
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"...would make for a tremedously boring country."

It isn't already?

*ducks*

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Mark Nguyen
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If you're talking the Stampede, then yes. It's a very boring place.

But we've got the Heebee-Jeebees, and their immortal song "Use the Force" which will become the seperated Alberta's new national anthem.

Mark

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But seriously: Gestalt knockoffs. Anywhere?
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