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Actually, not to sound totally insane regarding honey beverages, the ancient Russians drank many different honey beverages such as "perevar" and "braga" which were alcoholic (they also used molasses).
This might be interesting to note...there is a drink called mead, or honey wine, which is widely considered the world's first alcoholic drink first made by the ancient Greeks. This is the original "nectar of the gods."
Mead, in essence, is honey, water and yeast for fermentation, with spices and fruits often added for flavor variation. It is simpler to make than beer, and while meadmakers once had to boil the honey to sterilize it and wait up to two years for the product to age, mead can now be cold-filtered and can ferment in two to three months.
Im actually half tempted to try to make the stuff sometime.....
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Honey might go into mead, but that doesn't make it a beverage anymore than hops are, and I cannot believe we are having this discussion.
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Actually the most basic recipe of mead is honey, water and yeast, hops are optional. But in itself, honey is a unique substance, not quite fitting into other categories....
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Honey is not a beverage for my purposes. You do not sit down with a glass of honey at lunch.
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I dunno, hot water with a mixture of honey is great for when you have a sore throat.
I mean you're counting tea and coffee as beverages, but you don't literally drink a glass of coffee beans or tea leaves, you drink their diffuse (can't think of a better word) counterparts. I don't really see why the diffuse version of honey would be all that different.
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Well, if one was to drink honey in such a manner, it would qualify under the brewed beverages category, I suppose. Of course, since nobody actually does that except when they have a sore throat...
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However, when all is said and done, pretty much everything is, chemically, little more than water and sugar anyway.
Alcohol is chemically just water and sugar; juices are little more water and suger; coffee/tea is little more than a rearrangement of water and sugar and nitrogen (addributed to the caffeine); soda/coke/pop/softdrinks are water (carbonated) and sugar; the list goes on and on.
So whether you are squeezing an apple; brewing beer or making a cup of coffeem, when it all comes down to it, technically the only distinction between most the majority of the listed beverages is in by which 'process' they are made or what food group from which the 'additive' is derived.
It's not worth debating....its Omega's paper so its really up to him. It should just be noted that the process and additive are the only distinctions in the majority of the instances listed.
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Actually, I've changed my topic. I'm focusing on milk now. Thanks for all the help, and if anyone has any suggestions on that topic, please, do tell.
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Milk, eh? I recommend conducting an in-depth study of the human mammary apparatus...
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Alcohol has the same elements as sugar. Being Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen. but the way it is arranged makes it different. Alcohol is created through fermentation. AKA: anearobic respiration. In fact ethyl alcohol is produced in rising bread, but it evaporates when it's baked... And people think they never use biology.
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Alcohol is composed of the same elements as sugar, yes. It is also made of the same elements as acetic acid, methanal, ether, etc. I don't think you'd want to drink any of those (well, maybe the acetic acid. But why you'd want to drink it is beyond me).
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