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TSN
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"A lawyer was arrested late Monday and charged with trespassing at a public mall in the state of New York after refusing to take off a T-shirt advocating peace that he had just purchased at the mall."


Full story at Reuters.

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Jason Abbadon
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There's going to be openings for two securiy guards down at the mall.
....seems like a good position for facists and those rejected from military service. [Wink]

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quote:

Downs is the director of the Albany Office of the state Commission on Judicial Conduct, which investigates complaints of misconduct against judges and can admonish, censure or remove judges found to have engaged in misconduct.

Bet he wins in court!

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and here comes the punchline: link

[ March 05, 2003, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: TSN ]

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War is good for business.
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Peace is good for business. [Wink]

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Jason Abbadon
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Shit Topher! You posted at the same time as me with the same comment!!! [Big Grin]
What if they had shirts saying: "Give War a Chance"?

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Saltah'na
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
There's going to be openings for two securiy guards down at the mall.
....seems like a good position for facists and those rejected from military service. [Wink]

It doesn't look like it's going to happen. Judging by the fact that he has been arraigned and there will be a trial, it looks like this incident is going to be "overlooked" in the name of "civil liberties". Mall management seems to be unrepentant in this matter.

[ March 05, 2003, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Saltah'na ]

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Gee... Why am I not surprized?

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Jason Abbadon
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As the Patriot Act comes to a mall near you!

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Good to see how disagreement is handled in the land of the free.
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TSN
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I'm disappointed. Even Reuters aren't reliable anymore. According to the complaint and police reports, it wasn't the shirts, but rather a report that Downs and his son were bothering customers, which prompted the guards to act. Now, granted, I still have a problem w/ the fact that the shirts were brought into it at all. The guards should have told the men to stop bugging customers, not to remove their shirts. However, I'm also bothered by the fact that the media couldn't be bothered to report this rather important bit of the story.
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Jason Abbadon
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Read the part about "Alligations of Fact".
THe complaint is in essense the Plaintif's side of a case and can say any outlandishthing it wants.
I'd like to see affidavits from the customers that were supposedly "bothered".
This could just be the mall's way of covering it's ass.

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"received complaints that they were stopping other shoppers"

Well, the shirt itself, if it was in big bold letters, could be a shopper stopper by itself.

"Officer, that shirt the man is wearing is just plain disgusting. I want that shirt gone NOW!!!"

But yes, it is a one-sided complaint so far.

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TSN
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Jason: I was referring more to the police reports than the complaint.
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