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TSN
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That wouldn't make it right.
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Omega
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No.

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Cartman
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quote:
Without this fundamental right, all sorts of negative things could happen.
Like defending one right while stomping on another? May be legal, but doesn't sit well with me AT ALL.

Why are malls treated as private property, anyway?

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Omega
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Because... someone... owns them?

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ownage!!!1! pwnage!1!!!

BTW, if the people who own the malls are fascist pricks, don't shop at their mall and tell your friends. if they want the business bad enough, theyll change their ways. or close down from the loss of business.

as it is, people are afraid to shop there now for fear of how they'll 'offend' their hosts.. im sure that a boycott would make the individual stores put pressure on the owners to stop being pricks, once they started to see $$ fall off.

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First of Two
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quote:
Originally posted by Cartmaniac:
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Without this fundamental right, all sorts of negative things could happen.
Like defending one right while stomping on another? May be legal, but doesn't sit well with me AT ALL.

Doltage.

ALL rights impose on other rights.

All rights end where they impose on others' rights.

Take "Freedom of Speech."

My right to free speech ends at your doorstep.

My right to free speech is superceded by your right to privacy and personal space, otherwise it would be legal for me to follow you into the shower and shout slogans at you. (Talk about a negative outcome!)

My right to free speech is superceded by your right to comfort, which is why we have things like noise ordinances, and your nextdoor neighbor cannot legally blast Rush Limbaugh's greatest hits album at you at 3:00 AM every morning.

You cannot shout "fire" in a crowded theatre.

You cannot wear a shirt that says "Kill all (insert hated group here)" to school. In fact, schools are pretty much able to ban whatever speech they choose. Despite the fact that schools are "public." Other students' right to an Education (among other rights) makes this necessary.

I can't back this next one up, but you'll probably find that churches, while ostensibly public and open to anyone who may come in, are not required to tolerate speech on every viewpoint either.

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Cartman
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"ALL rights impose on other rights.

All rights end where they impose on others' rights."

It's the fixed boundaries between them that I have issues with. No case-by-case leeway.

Also, I wasn't aware entire urban shopping *areas* could be privately owned. In European states they remain federal property.

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TSN
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Practically everything in the US is privately owned. Especially anything having to do w/ corporations.

I'd also think that churches would be considered private. As far as I know, the land they occupy is still owned by someone.

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Anybody know who, BTW? I've never been quite clear on our legal status.

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