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The state was not part of the confederacy at the begining of the war.East Tennessee my part and the only part that matters to me was union. We fought against the rest of the state. And paid a heavy price. War at every door they called it.
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Tennessee joined the Confederacy in July of 1861.
There is absolutely no way you can make a valid claim that it was not part of the Confederacy simply because it joined after the firing on Fort Sumpter, irregardless of regional loyalties.
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A) That's funny. I lived in Chattanooga for ten years and I never heard a thing about that. Apparently it's not considered that big a deal in that part of East Tennessee, given that, y'know, everyone who fought in the civil war is dead...
B) My goodness, this man is from MY STATE!? What city, praytell?
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Matter of regional loyalty. Also of legality. We fought for the Union. I never think about middle and west tennessee as my home. Crooked politicians afraid to stand up for what was right. East Tennessee was solid against slavery and preserving the Union. Unionist was the term.We had our own war inside a war. Not something you hear about anymore.
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I never think about middle and west tennessee as my home. Crooked politicians afraid to stand up for what was right.
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Say whatever you want to about parts of states and regions, the fact of the matter is that the state of Tennessee seceeded from the Union and joined the Confederacy.
-------------------- Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war. ~ohn Adams
Once again the Bush Administration is worse than I had imagined, even though I thought I had already taken account of the fact that the Bush administration is invariably worse than I can imagine. ~Brad DeLong
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Screw middle and west tennessee they don't speak for us and we can still kick their butt. Long story. Too complicated to go into now.Read "War at every door". It lays out the time lines and legal aspects.
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I understand the regionalism that took place during the American Civil War, and I understand the strong Union sentimentalities of parts of the state, however, there is no way you can make the claim that "Tennessee was not part of the Confederacy."
It just ain't true.
-------------------- Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war. ~ohn Adams
Once again the Bush Administration is worse than I had imagined, even though I thought I had already taken account of the fact that the Bush administration is invariably worse than I can imagine. ~Brad DeLong
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The second vote was rigged we proved it. we kicked their butt. East and middle tenn. had a lock on it and the crooked politicians stole ballot boxes and used troops to keep middle tenn. voters away from the polls. Crooked deal, it never was legal."History is written by the victors"We won so we write the history.
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Tennessee seceeded from the Union after a majority of its citizens voted to REMAIN with the Union - it's the only state that voted to remain in the Union but left anyway (and that does say something about their politicians, as M.M. says). A good chunk of Tennesseeans did fight with the North, and quite a few of those were massacred at Fort Pillow.
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Thank you sir. While the history books seldom give us credit we were loyal to the union. The war here was terrible. We were always out numbered but we never quit.In this case its a matter of the history books not addressing the fact that the second vote was invalid. It should be corrected but it probably never will be.
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Is there some sort of signal degradation between your brain and your fingertips, or is there, as I fear, a real direct corellation between your thoughts and the words (I can't go so far as to call them "sentences") you post?
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My communication skills are limited by a medical problem. My line of reason is sound. Acepted history is incomplete in this case. Our state was not confederate. The results of the second vote were false. The people of this state took up arms to correct this and won in the end. Though the facts are not in question on this, recorded history does not ,in most books at least, show the whole story.Only by knowing the complete story would the truth be told. While it doesn't matter much to anyone today, it illustrates that the devil is in the details when studying events of long ago.
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quote: Kind of odd to me how being from tennessee would automaticaly mean that I was a racist
What!? I did not even mention the word racist. Just reminding you that you are, in fact, 53, and not 13, which it seemed like at the time.
I don't know anything about the American Civil War, but if Tennessee joined the Confederacy, they *were* a Confederate state. Even *if* the majority of people living in Tennessee (Tennesseeers? Tennesseeans?) did not support that decision.
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So, your saying there was a civil war within the Civil War...even in Tennessee?
I had no idea.
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Once again the Bush Administration is worse than I had imagined, even though I thought I had already taken account of the fact that the Bush administration is invariably worse than I can imagine. ~Brad DeLong
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