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Jason Abbadon
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The article in Wired:
Wired News: Congress Moves to Criminalize P2P

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In defending the "Pirate Act", Hatch said the operators of P2P networks are running a conspiracy in which they lure children and young people with free music, movies and pornography. With these "human shields," the P2P companies are trying to ransom the entertainment industries into accepting their networks as a distribution channel and source of revenue
Wow. These out of touch congressmen are making the insane leap between sharing files and child victimization.
And assuming that networks like Kazaa are somehow extorting money from the RIAA, no less.


Sure hope those campaign checks from the RIAA keep rolling in.

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So far in 2004, Leahy has received $178,000 in campaign contributions from the entertainment industries -- the second-biggest source of donations to Leahy behind lawyers. Hatch has received $152,360.


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Manticore
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Oh fun...I just hope that it's grandfathered...Otherwise a lot of people are gonna go to jail.

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Looks like the U.S. Postal service is going to be illeagal next, since you can do the same thing in the mail.

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Jason Abbadon
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Mabye they'll make burnable music CD's and audio tapes illeagal while they're at it....naaa.
Sony's made millions on those, so they cant be part of their problem with music sharing.

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I think these congressmen are running a conspiracy in which they lure gullible people with covert civil rights restrictions and other puritan crap.

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PsyLiam
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Or they're trying to stop people from stealing music. Maybe.

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Cartman
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Yeah, and they're doing that by criminalizing a perfectly legal MEANS of information exchange, which is NOT the same as criminalizing the information BEING exchanged. Should cars be banned because they can be used to mow someone down? Should hammers be banned because they can be used to bash someone's skull in? Should VHS tapes be banned because they can be used to record child porn, hmm?

Think about what you say next time. If you can spare the effort.

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PsyLiam
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Yes, I know that file sharing can be used for legitimate reasons. And I'm sure you (like everyone else around here) use them for legitimate reasons all the time.

Don't you?

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Jason Abbadon
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Hate the game: not the playazz. [Wink]

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Cartman
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Of course. And I'm just as sure there isn't a single piece of illegal software anywhere on your harddrive, and that you have never downloaded mp3s of some band's songs before buying their CD EVAR. No, I'm sure you're a regular boy scout. So...
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"Or they're trying to stop people from stealing music. Maybe."

"Yeah, and they're doing that by criminalizing a perfectly legal MEANS of information exchange, which is NOT the same as criminalizing the information BEING exchanged."


This is awesome, I just finished watching "West Wing" on the tv and I tune into..."West wing".

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PsyLiam
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I have lots of downloaded music. I know it's against the law, but I do it anyway. I have no right to complain if I get caught, in the same way that someone given a speeding ticket has no right to complain.

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Should cars be banned because they can be used to mow someone down? Should hammers be banned because they can be used to bash someone's skull in? Should VHS tapes be banned because they can be used to record child porn, hmm?
It's interesting that you've lept straight to the traditional right-wing "Why guns are good and should never, ever, be banned" argument there.

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Yes, I know that file sharing can be used for legitimate reasons. And I'm sure you (like everyone else around here) use them for legitimate reasons all the time.

Actually, the vast majority of my KaZaa use is for sharing episodes recorded off a television, which is perfectly legal. If anyone wants any good Andromeda I'm sharing it right this second.

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Cartman
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I have lots of downloaded music. I know it's against the law, but I do it anyway. I have no right to complain if I get caught, in the same way that someone given a speeding ticket has no right to complain.

Right, IF you get caught doing something that's against the law. Which using a file-share program (in and of itself) is NOT.

It's interesting that you've lept straight to the traditional right-wing "Why guns are good and should never, ever, be banned" argument there.

I would say why I think an exception should be made for guns, if I weren't so skittish about dragging out THAT whole debate again. So, I won't.

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PsyLiam
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And the rest of the time, you use it for what?

And are you sure it's legal to pass around episodes you've taped off of a TV?

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