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Cartman
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And I get the impression Iraq is sliding from that stage as well.
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Bush and Blair back UN Iraq plan
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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Veers:
You mean Iraq? Or Haiti? Because Haiti's now gone from the "international news stage."

Ah....I forgot that problem go away once they're no longer "news". [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Sol System:
Bush and Blair back UN Iraq plan

AFAIC, that June 30 "handover" is nothing but a sham; the interim government will be nothing but a US occupying regime with a local face. The econoly will be largely under US corporate control and the US will have troops over there.
I find it hypocritical that Bush is endorsing a UN plan after he stood and endorsed Sharon's Gaza plan which essentially disregards UN Resolutions for Israel to pull out of the West Bank and throws out over 5 decades of US Middle East policy. [Mad]

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Jason Abbadon
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"throws out over 5 decades of US Middle East policy"?!?
Not that any of that "policy" was ever effective.
Our "policy" was to back thugs that were popular with large groups of thugs.
cough*Saudi Arabia*cough!
It didnt work out too well, really.
I cant think of a better policy to throw out.

Take a hard look at ALL the UN member countries sometime.

You'd be hard pressed not to find hypocricy in any of them: they all back or oppose resolutions based on what's in it for them.

Iraq is a live grenade: the US now only wants to back the UN aid because it's better (for the US and Britan) if Iraq blows up in someone else's hands: particularly in an election year.

Think of it as "middle east hot-potato".

Everyone will pass on hard decisions untill the elections....I imagine that the UN will avoid any Iraq entanglments untill then as well: better for them not to comit untill they know who's in charge of the US military (fuck-o Rumsfeld, fuck-o Cheney or whatever fuck-o Kerry would install).

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The membership of the United Nations consists of nearly every nation on the planet, and thus saying "look at how its members act" is something like saying "it's made up of people, and we all know how they are," which isn't an untrue statement, necessarily, but so general as to be useless (not to mention nihilistic and self-defeating).
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Jason Abbadon
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I refer more towards the few powerful nations in the UN assembley.
The old skool NATO ones.

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Cartman
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"Take a hard look at ALL the UN member countries sometime... they all back or oppose resolutions based on what's in it for them."

True. The US just does a disproportionally large share of it.

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(Edit)
Forget this post...

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Cartman:
"Take a hard look at ALL the UN member countries sometime... they all back or oppose resolutions based on what's in it for them."

True. The US just does a disproportionally large share of it.

Well....that you hear about anyway.
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Yes, until I could get a good behind the scenes look at what the others are doing you have no idea of what kinds of politicing are happening....

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Jason Abbadon
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I mean that the US is just far less discreet than it's fellow NATO members.

When Britan or Germany fuck someone over, you dont hear about it sometimes for years.

Here, someone will write a book at the drop of a hat (or the drop of a job).

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Indeed, it's hard to imagine a news agency being critical of government policies in such backwards places.
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Jason Abbadon
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Hey, speaking of "not hearing about it for years", the ol' Oil for Food cash scam is finally starting to heat up.

The UN's reputation is literally riding on all the investigated parties coming forward of their own volition and explaining how they helped saddam skim $10 billion from the UN.

That's more money than the GNP of several UN member countries!

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Cartman
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The UN's reputation as what? A humanitarian organization?
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