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Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs
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Actually, I didn't.

Well, yes I did.

But that is besides the point. Anyway, I've been learning -- ready for it? -- Evolution *gasp* in my Biology class. Both the textbooks, and the teacher are quite quick to point out that evolution is A THEORY, and as such, is subject to the conditions that THEORIES are.

Now, in a step by step method, I'll try and conduct my train of thought (I = KING OF THE PUN), regarding this THEORY.

1. I get up and have breakfast.

2. The THEORY of Evolution is just that, a THEORY.

According to dictionary.com (Hopefully, a non Left Conspiracy site), the definition of THEORY is:

the�o�ry
n., pl. the�o�ries.
1.a. Systematically organized knowledge applicable in a relatively wide variety of circumstances, especially a system of assumptions, accepted principles, and rules of procedure devised to analyze, predict, or otherwise explain the nature or behavior of a specified set of phenomena.
b.Such knowledge or such a system.
2.Abstract reasoning; speculation.
3.A belief that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: rose early, on the theory that morning
efforts are best; the modern architectural theory that less is more.
4.An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

3. In addition, I am of the understanding that one single discrepancy in said theory, causes it to be either A) Disproven or B)Reworked, depending on the severity of the discrepancy.

4. So, If apples stopped falling of trees, apart from the abundance of Doctor house calls, we could either negate or amend the original THEORY of Gravity.

5. Am I okay so far?

6. I go to the bathroom. (The View was just on. Barbara Walters = Hot!)

7. As an example, The THEORY of Evolution is one THEORY of how people and animals and everything came to be. Correct?

8. So is the Bible.

9. Why is the Bible not considered a THEORY?

10. If the Bible is contradicted, it is not dismissed, or reevaluated? I am cononononondrumized.

10. In so far that these two situations could feasibly occur:

SITUATION 1:
[INT. LAB. DAY]
CUT TO:
SCIENTIST: "Dinosaurs evolved into Birds"
HOT ANCHOR LADY FROM CNN: "Fossils found today indicate that Dinosaurs and birds coexisted."
SCIENTIST: "Hmm. I do believe I must rethink my position. Ngoyen hoymen yamen flaven."

SITUATION 2:
[INT. CHURCH. DAY.]
JUMP CUT TO
PREACHER(NOT THE COMIC BOOK CHARACTER): "And, because the Lord said it is so, the World is only 4000 years old."
HOT ANCHOR LADY FROM CNN: "Geological Formations found today indicate that the world is 650,000,000 years old."
PREACHER(NTCBC): "That is created by Scientists, and has no basis in God's world. They do not have faith. The Bible is correct."

11. I don't understand.

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[This message has been edited by The Shadow (edited January 16, 2001).]


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Fabrux
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Hey, UM, ever hear of the [/i] tag?

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Omega
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Only a moron would like your hypothetical preacher, UM. It'd be far more credible to deny the validity of your dating methods.

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What a coincidence! I'm taking Anthropology 200: Origins of Humanity! In fact, we're going to talk about Evolution vs. Creationism this week. Yippee. The professor's focus is on primates, so we get to read Jane Goodall and go to the zoo and watch monkeys. It's quite fascinating how non-human primates behave like humans.

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...or vice versa for that matter...

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UM: You don't understand? Well, there isn't much to understand. Religion is born of ignorance...

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Diane
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That statement is born out of ignorance.

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Isn't just about everything ignorant? Especially driving on the wrong side of the road. Sheeesh ...

(that was a joke there, by the way ...)

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Um Religion's as much a theory as the theory of evolution, if not more so as there's no real fact or proof behind it. Science has the attempt to be as real and unbiased as possible. Religion is far from unbiased.
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It's fun not to know what a scientific term means. Wee! Invisible elephants live inside my piano!

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The Theory of Evolution is no longer a theory. It is accepted fact, and irrefutable evidence exists to prove this. All one has to do is educate oneself and see this for themselves. Now what is in question is how evolution occurs, with the only theory (now practically accepted as fact) being natural selection, ie. survival of the fittest. The only problem with natural selection is that while it explains many cases where evolution is observed, it can't explain them all. Random mutations have been cited as explanations of this but as far as I know this is in dispute.

A property of theories is that they are scientific, and thus can be disproven by observing something which is contradictory to the theory. A theory is used while it models the observable(s) accurately and is, as UM said, discarded or modified when the observable(s) differ(s) from the theory.

Religion is not scientific, as it cannot be proven that gods etc. do not exist (The fact that it can't be proven that they can exist, and that the whole idea is rather ridiculous are beside the point). As religion is not scientific, it cannot be a theory, and is relegated to the status of "playground for the ignorant", where "ignorant" is taken to mean "uninformed", and is not meant to be derogatory.


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The Theory of Evolution is no longer a theory. It is accepted fact, and irrefutable evidence exists to prove this.

You are aware that the same could have been said for the flatness of the world a millenium ago?

And you're basically saying, "OK, we KNOW for a fact that evolution occured. We just don't know how." Does this seem a LITTLE odd to anyone?

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Religions aren't theories. They're hypotheses.

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A hypothesis requires some, although minimal, thought on the subject, because it is colloquially referred to as "an educated guess." A hypothesis also requires openness to the possibility that it may be proven incorrect.

Religion generally has neither of these things, though the more modern forms pretend to have both.

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The theory of evolution that man has evolved from monkeys, or other such evolutions has not been proven, as there is no possible way to prove it (without time machines and stuff)

While evolution is a scientific possiblity, there have been no scientific proofs, because evolution cannot be truly shown (within our lifespan, or even centuries.) As far back as our histories go, we have been human, or homo sapien sapiens. Since we don't have any record before that, all that is before is speculation.

Without 100% proof, everything is still a theory.

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