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Yes, I'm actually kicking myself now for having spent so much time typing that stuff. It was obviously time wasted. Next time I'll just let Omega wallow in his ignorance. 8|
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Omega: You're suggesting that there's a clear division of species? Perhaps you should stop assuming such a strict definition of "species". It either can reproduce, or it can't, and that means jack shit. There is a middle ground. Thus, no clear division, thus evolution works.
Oh, and, once and for all, you're a fucking moron.
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Come on, calling Omega names isn't going to get him to change his argument, and it certainly doesn't make your arguments all the more convincing. Well ... nothing is going to get him to change his argument, honestly, (short of The Almighty telling him that He created the world through evolution) but I, for one, had it beaten into me that this isn't the place to flame people, only ideas ...
You know, it might be a good idea to change the name of this forum to "Debate-Board" not "Flameboard" because people get the wrong ideas
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With all due respect, JeffK, I've seen some of your debates with Omega and, while I understand how annoying he can be, you sometimes lost the rag too.
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Indeed I did, and every time I did, I got the whole "ideas not people" lecture too Which is why I said that,
I, for one, had it beaten into me that this isn't the place to flame people, only ideas ...
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Jeff: Well, I've tried logic on him, and it doesn't work, so I just felt like point out, at that moment, that he's a fucking moron. I realize we all knew it already, but something urged me to explicitly state it at that point, so I did.
Besides, I preceded it w/ my rational arguement. It was just an addendum...
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Well, it's not like I'm saying he's not, it's just that ... oh, nevermind. I'm going to bed now.
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I wouldn't mind except for the fact that Omega didn't seem to read the big spiel I posted earlier, then posted subsequently arguing about something which I appeared to have clarified, namely the interbreeding of species.
Here is the part most relevant to the interbreeding issue from what I posted.
Any factor that impedes two different species from producing fertile hybrids contributes to reproductive isolation. (i) Prevent mating or fertilization. -Populations do not meet -Mating occurs at different times of the year in each species -No attraction between sexes -Reproductive organs structurally incompatible
(ii) Prevent development of fertile adults -Hybrid zygote fails to develop -Hybrids fail to produce functional gametes -Offspring of hybrids may have reduced fertility
THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES Two principle modes of speciation: Allopatric speciation: May occur in geographically isolated populations, when a splinter population diverges in evolution from its parent population.
Sympatric speciation: (Plants). Occurs principally by a radical change in the genome which results in a sub-population becoming reproductively isolated in the midst of its parent population
The key event in speciation is genetic isolation
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No, I just tend to ignore flaming sessions. Especially when I'm the one getting flamed.
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Yes, so why don't you flame TSN, and then reply to Gurgeh?
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For the record, out of curiosity, I just checked a number of dictionaries and encyclopedias.
Nowhere in any definition of 'species' written within the last 20 years is there the statement that animals of different species (but the same genus) CANNOT interbreed, only that they "generally" do not. Which they don't. We help them, sometimes, with in-viro fertilization and other artificial measures, but generally, they don't do it on their own.
Omega, you need newer reference books, or something.
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