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Jay the Obscure
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Bush Backs Off Campaign Pledge on Pollution

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush abandoned a campaign pledge on Tuesday, telling Congress he would not seek to impose mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide at electrical power plants.

The move angered environmentalists and was at odds with
the spirit of the Kyoto Protocol, the 1997 U.N. climate pact accord aimed at reducing greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide. The accord was signed by the United States but has not been ratified by the Senate and Bush opposes it.

Bush had declared in a presidential campaign speech on energy that carbon dioxide is a pollutant, and thus susceptible to emissions controls, but aides said on Tuesday it had been a mistake to do so since it is not listed as a pollutant under the Clean Air Act.


Reuters

One campaign promise down.

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Quatre Winner
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If i've said it once, i'll say it again...YOU'VE ELECTED THE WRONG BUSH!

Case in point, Jeb Bush. For many years now, oil companies have been wanting to drill in the Gulf of Mexico, almost due south of Pensacola (My home) and one of Brotha' Jeb's promises has been "NO WAY that will EVER happen". Well, guess what. It's not gonna happen. Jeb's kept his promise to keep the oil rigs out of the Gulf and our beaches, lovely as they are, will remain that way as long as Jeb's in office.

Ironic, ain't it?

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Lee
I'm a spy now. Spies are cool.
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Ooh, I feel a literary reference coming on. . . So tell me, when big business rides roughshod over anything he says, will he abandon the Governorship, go native in the Everglades, and live on roadkill?

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Quatre Winner
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To answer your question, No.

And Tallahasee is quite a ways from the 'glades. Besides, they don't eat roadkill in the 'glades. Alligators tho...

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"Okashii na... namida ga nagareteru. Hitotsu mo kanashikunai no ni."
(That's funny... my tears are falling. And I'm not sad at all.) - Quatre Raberba Winner



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Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
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*sigh*

Typical Right-winger.

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Omega
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Is it possible he originally misspoke, and meant carbon MONoxide? 'Cause that be a pollutant.

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Omega
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Oh, and besides that, can you get the exact text of the speech in which he said that? 'Cause from your description, it doesn't sound like he said that he'd try to limit production. Some aides may have been making noises recently, but then, that's not him.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/13/205103.shtml

For more info.

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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, co-operate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, [and] die gallantly. Specialisation is for insects."
- Woodrow Wilson Smith


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First of Two
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Several power plants in California last year were shut down early because they'd exceeded their artificially-inflated CO2 emissions. I'm sure that HELPED the situation.

Perhaps I might think differently if I lived in a giant city, but given the choice between smog and being able to cook, clean, watch TV, use the computer, have A/C, and SEE at night... I'd probably take smog. And just drive an LEV.

Human activity is not the major source of CO2. Sorry. Our impact in that area remains minimal.

Is Global Warming happening? Looks like it.
Are humans exacerbating it? Maybe.
If we end all our emissions, will it stop? Almost certainly not. The Earth has warmed and cooled many, many times over its history. It's been a bit cool, now it's getting warmer again. Millennia ago, hippos used to wallow in the Thames. Millennia ago, the Sahara bloomed. We didn't change that.

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The government that seems the most unwise, oft goodness to the people best supplies. That which is meddling, touching everything, will work but ill, and disappointment bring. - The Tao Te Ching


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PsyLiam
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In the open air, doesn't Carbon Monoxide oxidise to Carbon Dioxide pretty easily?

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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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First, don't you think it's a little bit of a coincidence that the global warming is happening all of a sudden, when the human race has only been industrialised for less than 150 years?

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comprehend the language in which it is written. It is written in the language
of mathematics, and its characters are triangles, circles and other geometric
figures, without which it is humanly impossible to understand a single word
of it; without these, one is wandering about in a dark labyrinth."
Galileo (1623)


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Omega
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Well, considering that there are only records going back, what, twelve decades? How do you know it's sudden at all? Or, considering the conflicting evidence, that it's even happening?

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First of Two
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Back in the late 70's, as I recall, there was a lot of worry, even among reputable scientists, that we were heading into a new "Ice Age," although I doubt that most people here would remember that.

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The government that seems the most unwise, oft goodness to the people best supplies. That which is meddling, touching everything, will work but ill, and disappointment bring. - The Tao Te Ching


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Jeff Raven
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I'd like to see Environmentalists try to fight for legislation to stop CO2 emissions from Volcanoes and plants and animals, the major sources of CO2 in the world. I'd find that funny.

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Omega
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Plants are a major source of CO2? What, when they burn in natural forest fires?

You know, I seem to recall reading that Clinton signed into law in Arkansas a bill forbidding a river from rising above the level of the bridge on main street in Little Rock, or something stupid like that. This wouldn't surprise me at all.

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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, co-operate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, [and] die gallantly. Specialisation is for insects."
- Woodrow Wilson Smith


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Nim
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I said it before and I'll say it again, I didn't want to move to California...

(Oh come on, it was a slam dunk, my man)

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