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Yes plants create CO2. However, not on the scale of animals. Heck, the Rainforests are net consumers of oxygen.
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I remember watching some programme on the Discovery channle on how there happens to be some kind of phenomena where the sea releases huge amounts of methane gas.
Which gets me to thinking: We humans are doing a pretty piss poor as stewards on this little blue-green planet but NOTHING can compare how ol' Ma Nature can fuck the world for us by letting out one great big ol' ocean fart.
That is all. You may go now.
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Hmm. I know plants do produce CO2 at night, but the rainforests produce more than they use? Are you including plants AND animals there?
Besides, the major use of the rainforests isn't oxygen production anyway (since we get most of that from the sea), it's the natural wildlife, possible new drugs, and other fun stuff.
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Now I have to ask, has there really been that many more volcanoes this century that could account for accelerated, as it has been called "global Temperature Enhancement?"
Or could cars and power plants and fossil fuels and even Simon's inate sexxy persona have something to do with it.
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Shhhh, Jay! You might upset the Conservatives. They hate trying to go against their programming.
And The Washington Post confirmed that Bush is indeed breaking a campaign promise. Not surprising -- every politician breaks their campaign promises. Which is why you're stupid to believe campaign promises in the first place.
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And The Washington Post confirmed that Bush is indeed breaking a campaign promise.
Oooh, The Washington Post. I'm real impressed. They have a great history of telling the truth and being unbiased.
I have yet to hear exactly what campaign promise he broke. Can anyone tell me?
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Actually, we've only been keeping precise global weather records since 1979. As a statistical sample for historical purposes, this would generally be known as 'piddling-poor.'
SOME of the volcanoes which have erupted since 1980, since you asked:
Taken from "World Almanac and Book of Facts, 2001 edition"
AFRICA Mt. Cameroon Nyiragong Nyamuragira Ol Doinyo Lengal Fogo Karthala Piton de la Fournaise Lake Nyos Erta-Ale
ANTARTCTICA Erebus
ASIA-OCEANIA Kliuchevskoi Kerinci Semeru Slamet Raung Shiveluch On-take Mayon Merapi Bezymianny Ruapehu Peuet Sague Heard Asama Niigata Yake-yama Canlaon Alaid Ulawun Galunggung Bagana Sangeang Api Soputan Manam Kuju Karangetang-Api Siau Kelut Adatare Gamalama Kirishima Gamkonora Pinatubo Aso Lokon-Empung Bulusan Sarychev Peak Akan Akademia nauk Karymsky Lopevi Akita-Yake-yama Unzen Ambrym Langila Awu Sakura-jima Komaga-take Dukono Miyake-jima Krakatau Suwanose-jima Gaua Oshima Usu Rabaul Pagan Yasur White Island McDonald Islands
CENTRAL AMERICA Tacana Santa Maria Fuego Poas Pacaya San Miguel Rincon de la Vieja San Cristobal Arenal Concepcion Soufriere Hills Masaya
SOUTH AMERICA Tupungatito Lascar Ruiz Sangay Irruputuncu Guagua Pichincha Galeras Llaima Villarrica Cerro Hudson Fernandina
MID-PACIFIC Mauna Loa Kilauea
MID-ATLANTIC Jan Mayen Grimsvotn Hekla Krafla Surtsey
EUROPE Etna Stromboli
NORTH AMERICA Popocatepetl Colima Redoubt Shishaldin Pavlof St. Helens Veniaminof El Chichon Makushin Cleveland Gareloi Atka Korovin Akutan Kiska Augustine Okmok Seguam
Does that answer your question? Most of the volcanoes listed in the list have erupted AFTER 1995.
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Geologists can tell from rocks and ice cores what the levels of carbon dioxide were before records began.
Also, the fact that volcanoes have been erupting for millions of years means that the earth's ecosystem has adapted to this, so that the earth has reached an equilibrium. However, the effects of human industrialisation lie outside this equilibrium system, so there could be a disturbance to the natural climate.
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Thanks for bringing that up. According to core samples, the earth fluctuates between cold and hot, and rather extremely at that. The graph in the book is extremely jagged. We are currently in a hot phase, but definitely not the hottest ever, even during man's existence. There was a time some 500,000 years ago that was much warmer, and is the reason that fossil elephants (NOT wolly mammoths, regular-type elephants) and similar warm-dwelling mammals have been found as far north as London, a place where it is doubtful they could be found naturally even in today's age of "global warming."
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quote:President George W. Bush abandoned a campaign pledge on Tuesday, telling Congress he would not seek to impose mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide at electrical power plants.
Really, Omega, its the first page of the thread.
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It's not quite AS wrong to break a campaign promise made on the basis of inaccurate understanding.
It's not very likely that that promise helped him get elected, anyway.
At least he seems to be keeping to his marriage vows, as far as we know and unlike some other president we could mention. And he's holding pretty fast to the larger promises he's made, like the tax cut. On the whole, he's doing pretty well, promise-keeping-wise, compared to the last two guys (even his father) to hold the office.
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Jay: Just that a lot of volcanoes have been erupting lately. Which is what you seemed to be asking about.
Still, the preponderance of the evidence continues to point in the direction of the current warming being simply part of a general trend.
Volcanic eruptions throw millions of cubic tons of CO2 and other greenhouse gases into the air. Every eruption generates more than humanity puts into the air in a year. Last year, some 23 volcanoes erupted. You do the math.
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For the record, I used them as a basis for a thread exactly once, and I backed off once I had been corrected.
JK:
The opening means nothing. Remember, Post is a liberal paper. I want an exact quote showing that he DID, in fact, promise this. The article never describes him doing so. It merely claims that at some point he did.
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