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Diane
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Omega: Who supports a law he or she doesn't believe in? I don't see why fighting the death penalty makes you a hypocritic conservative, though supporting it does make a hypocritic Christian. Which is worse?
Or, as a third alternative, you can support neither side.

Where do you draw the line? At DEATH, obviously. That's a pretty thick line.

Oh, and some forms of lying have already been legislated. Perjury, for one. You can tell when a religious rule is not limited to your religion, can't you?

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[This message has been edited by Tora Ziyal (edited April 30, 2001).]


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Nim
The Aardvark asked for a dagger
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Well, that's it for my synapses. I think premarital sex ban, I think "can't people stop judging what other people should do?". Then I think nazis, and "can't you let us believe what WE want???". I feel dirty, I don't want to be human anymore. I want to go with the coccoon people and dance with jewish aliens!

(Guest): *raises finger* -Aha! antisemitism!
(Host) : -That's not antisemitism, that's not even a real nose! *yank*

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First of Two
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>". But why would you want to see a person die if you don't truly hate him? Can you say hypocrisy?"

Can you say practicality?

One does not have to hate to kill.
Truly, hate clouds the intellect, and makes killing more difficult.

I'm capable of hate. But usually I don't want to kill the people I hate. Usually I want to torture them just enough so that they ALMOST die, let them heal, rinse, repeat. That's much more satisfying that straight killing.

I don't have to hate someone to kill them. All that is required is that I see them as a significant threat. It's a matter of balance... is the world a significantly safer place for innocents if this individual ceases to exist? If it is, then the solution becomes obvious. There's no point in wasting energy feeling about it.

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The government that seems the most unwise, oft goodness to the people best supplies. That which is meddling, touching everything, will work but ill, and disappointment bring. - The Tao Te Ching


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Malnurtured Snay
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But, if all that's required is to see someone as a threat, why do you need to kill someone who is locked up in prison?

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First of Two
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Practicality again. If it were adjudicated and carried out in a practical manner, (as per my previous statements on when the death penalty should be used)the expense would be far less.

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The government that seems the most unwise, oft goodness to the people best supplies. That which is meddling, touching everything, will work but ill, and disappointment bring. - The Tao Te Ching

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Nim
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I'm wondering who of flare's alleged 500+ members is a serial killer...

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Me.

Wait, I meant not me!

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Jeff: "But, if all that's required is to see someone as a threat, why do you need to kill someone who is locked up in prison?"

!! Warning: Contoversial, Flip Answer And Not Necessarily One I Agree With !!

Because he/she/it cannot be turned into a productive member of society and thus to expend resources on keeping them alive is a waste. We do it to animals.

Sorry, guys, but I felt that needed to be said, even though it's somehat to the right of Genghis Khan.

*readies himself for firing squad*


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Nim
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Feels good to have a group of people that relieves me of having to judge human value.

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Diane
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Eclipse: Currently, executions are more costly than keeping someone in jail for life because of the appeal system.

First: You remind me of Satan in Paradise Lost.

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Gaseous Anomaly
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DT: Dev wasn't executed with the rest of the 1916 Easter Rising leaders because the UK wanted to bring the US into WWI, and killing Dev would have raised hell with American public opinion.

It wasn't being civilized - it was political manoeuvring.

BTW: guess who's country still has the Death Penalty? YEP!! There's a referendum in a few months to see what to do about it.

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At that point, McDonald fired his gun three times in the air to emphasize his point. The crowd, estimated at 350,000, loudly cheered the new candidate.

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First of Two
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I've GOTTA hear THIS one.
Of course, it's isn't the first time someone's compared me to Lucifer.

I'm afraid "Paradise Lost" is still on my to-read list.

What exactly makes me like Satan, Tora?

The first true revolutionary?
A rebel against a tyrannical regime?

"Well, better to reign in Hell, eh?"
"W-whatever you say, Lord Lucifer."
"I didn't say it. Milton said it. And he was blind." -- Lucifer to Cain, Sandman: Season of Mists

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The government that seems the most unwise, oft goodness to the people best supplies. That which is meddling, touching everything, will work but ill, and disappointment bring. - The Tao Te Ching


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First of Two isn't Lucifer, I can see the connection, but it's not him, it's that lady on bedazzled

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