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"...things like E Plurbus Unum would have just passed..."
I'm not sure I see what this has to do w/ anything. "E pluribus, unum" is simply a reference to the fact that the country is made up of a bunch of different states. It's from back in the day when "United States" was a plural noun.
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Well, I got carried away.... It happens here.... now too me... damn you all for making me get carried away....
Okay, so skip that one.... I should have put 'In God We Trust' there....
My point is, for those that have the faith in God, is that this is to be expected.... The attempted removal of God from all aspects of life in the days preceeding the false prophet....
So the happenings that we are seeing are expected, and should not be surprising, as the religious value is lessened by satan's minions...
If it wasn't for the need to keep up with the banter here, especially in topics like this, I doubt that I would have started going to church again... but since I have started I have gotten a decent job that I like, and made several good non-cyber friends.... An ironic twist, I feel....
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My family is composed of a bunch of fundie christians. They had me baptized when I was still an fetus.
So lately, I've been hearing about all this in one viscious tirade after another, and I generally ignore it.
But: I have made up my mind about something--Christians do not understand the mind of an atheist AT ALL.
Or, at least, they don't understand INTELLIGENT atheists.
You see, being an fella that swings between being an atheist and an agnostic (mostly depending on mood) myself, I have to be lumped together with people that actually care about things like this by the God Fearing Right.
I don't CARE whether or not some kid has to say "Under God" in the pledge. Personally, I think the guy who brought this lawsuit up in the first place is a fucking idiot. He ONLY wanted fame, and so he decided to go about it by smashing something that 90% of the people cherish...That's STUPID.
If the kid didn't want to say it, she DIDN'T have to. It's not like some fucker was standing there with a knife to her throat, "You'd better be saying the words, lass, or..."
So because of this nitwit, I have to listen to Mom and Pop mumble about the decline of civilization, and how all the prophecies of John the Revelator are coming home to roost.
"Best watch yourself, Jason. They'll get ya for sure if you don't change yer ways..."
"Who, Dad?"
"Them evil liberal spirits, boy. Them that got your sister, made her a baby killer!"
Fuck, I'd kill that guy myself just for that.
I'm actually glad the ninth circuit court put an hold on the order. No more of this family collusion to get me back to the dark ages.
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On a related note, there's general shit going down in the journalism community because Fox News posted the office phone number of the judge involved onscreen and urged its viewers to call him and pass on their opinion. Given the target audience of Rupert Murdoch's little baby, it's pretty obvious what kind of commentary was being encouraged, and this is now basically being seen within the journalism community as a media outlet encouraging harassment. Of course, Fox News has been seen as a journalistic embarassment by its peers for years, especially since the various incidents with Geraldo. Then again, since everyone who doesn't work for Fox News is a part of the evil liberal journalism conspiracyTM, I guess that's pretty meaningless.
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I believe I have stated before that I am a practicing Roman Catholic (not that I expect anyone to care about, or remember, the religious affiliation of one non-regular (unregular?) Flareite). That said, I am in full agreement with the court's decision.
I just wanted to remind everyone that not all Christians are Bible-thumping, hellfire-and-brimstone-condemning, right-wing whackos who think, contrary to the Founding Father's intent, the United States is a Christian nation and damn it, it's (flag's) pledge is gonna have "God" in it. (Indeed, those kinds of "Christians" generally hate Catholics, per Bob Jones University.)
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Ultrasound and a long (and presumably rather uncomfortable) tube with gravity-fed holy water?
Reverend McGuiver?
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It's bizarre, man. There's a priest rubbing my mom's belly with holy water, and mumbling in latin, and a bunch of people I don't recognize standing around watching, with tears in their eyes.
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Of course they are. It's just that the big cults get called "religions".
And what will it take to make people realize that this has nothing�absolutely zero�to do w/ "forcing kids to say the pledge". Read this, then maybe you'll figure it out. The plaintiff knows better than some of you, apparently, that the school didn't force his kid to say anything. His problem is that they made her "watch and listen as her state-employed teacher in her state-run school leads her classmates in a ritual proclaiming that there is a God". The article explains quite simply how the court determined that it's wrong, and it makes 100% logical sense. Just because some of you don't care, what does that have to do w/ anything? I may not care if the government says it's okay for people to steal all your stuff. After all, it doesn't affect me if it's your stuff. But would my telling you to quit griping make everything okay?
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