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Sol System: Hmm, I must admit, both of my memory references were to the coming of age concept, explaining my confusion. You're right, both those novels wouldn't fit the techno-gimmick mold. However I was talking on a more general level and I would still be hard pressed to consider either Dune or Canticle as having a major focus on their characters. Possibly Dune, but I would say that Paul's character development is largely overshadowed .
Well, as you've pointed out they share a similar structure, vague plot similarity, they both use characters in a similar way, they both don't depict much direct conflict, and they both have as a major theme that historical/social forces will eventually override anything that individual people may want. (And yes, I realise that this changes a lot in Foundation, but till the halfway point) That adds up to enough similarity in my eyes to safely say that if someone really didn't like one book, they probably won't like the other. At the very least, they're more similar to each other than say....well Blade Runner and Dune for lack of a better example.
quote:Middy, your comments on the new direction of Enterprise are very insightful. I couldn't agree more. I disagree, however, with your opinion that Takei couldn't successfully lead a series. What specifically in your opinion disqualifies him?
I'm not necessarily disqualifying Takei from being a series lead. I just don't think that Takei or the character of Sulu can bare the brunt of carrying a series, IMHO. While Takei is an ecclectic actor, he doesn't strike me as the leading actor. There are those who are great character actors and there are those that a lead actors, and visa versa.
I may, however, be grossly mistaken. It is all in the writing of such a series, and Takei, if allowed, could prove me wrong. I'd be delighted to see him do just that.
quote:Originally posted by Mucus: Psyliam: Popularity != good quality Heck, even TOS (without which, we wouldn't be here) was in constant threat of being cancelled...and then it was.
No, popularity does not equal good quality. However, in this day and age, popularity DOES = advertising revenue = budget = continuance of show. Producing Trek on a similar budget to B5 would involve massive scalling back of almost all aspects of production, and require hiring people who used to be in Grease. Do we want that? Really?
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quote:Originally posted by Mucus: Psyliam: Popularity != good quality Heck, even TOS (without which, we wouldn't be here) was in constant threat of being cancelled...and then it was.
No, popularity does not equal good quality. However, in this day and age, popularity DOES = advertising revenue = budget = continuance of show. Producing Trek on a similar budget to B5 would involve massive scalling back of almost all aspects of production, and require hiring people who used to be in Grease. Do we want that? Really?
Oh, no.. I can see the next sweeps period. Coming next week on Enterprise, Oliva Newton John guest stars as T'Pol's estranged mother! The horror!
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quote:Originally posted by Middy Seafort: ala the Ferangi
I'm sorry, but when people do this I see red. Never ever ever say "� la the" again or I will have to hurt you.
The proper way to say it would be � la Ferengi.
Allah the Ferengi.
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do we take off points for misspelling Ferengi too?
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Don't make the Ferengi go all Jihad on you. ...think of the contracts that'd involve!
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He's the one making all teh typos?!? Get him!!!
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as a newbie, you do make most of the typos and wierd posts around here middy.. don't worry though, the level of whipping you are getting is nowhere near what we used to do to n00bz
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I dunno, I got it pretty bad and I wasnt...or isnt or currently aint...that bad, I can keep up with the "big boys" ...and even I think Middys posts are pretty...superfluous.
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Indeed. Well, I will attempt to keep my thought out posts to a minimum length as not to bore the audience. I will also try to contain my sense of humor.
I try with my "superfluous" post to add fuel and fire to the raging debate on topics, such as this and the thread I started about TNG. They were not thought of cavalierly or without reason.
But I am not above any ribbing, or constructive criticism.
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On that note.. I seem to have made a double post. Moderator, could you please delete at your earliest convenience.
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