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Jason Abbadon
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Kmart's right!
Movie writers should cater their scripts to the statistically insignifigant percentage of the population that are screenwriters themselves, rather than what the bulk of fans would enjoy.
Sure to be a blockbuster that way.

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bX
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Can anyone confirm this was'nt the return of Mountain Troll?

He might have been a touch over-sensitive there with the end, but surely kmart wasn't even close to how annoying Mountain Man was. And he usuallly put his apostrophes in the proper spot. He knew a lot and was interesting. So I for one am sorry to see him go, and I'm sorry he let you catty bitches get to him. What was everyone's beef with him exactly, again? Defending TFF?

OTOH, and in response to:
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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
...Sure to be a blockbuster that way.

But you see that's assuming you want a blockbuster. Do you know what else was a blockbuster? "Independence Day". Now I'm not saying it wasn't a great movie, but I mean it did have Randy Quaid in it. Know what else? "Batman: Forever". Hell the pants remake of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" was the number one movie in the US last week.

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by Balaam Xumucane:
What was everyone's beef with him exactly, again? Defending TFF?

Good god no, since I spend a lot of time defending it myself. Not so much because I like it, you see, but because I really can't grasp how someone would rather sit through 2 hours of mind numbing boredom in the shape of TMP, instead of 2 hours of entertaining drivel.

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Why obviously it's because the deck count is accurate in TMP.
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Wow, I had no idea my "moron"ic jab would drive 'kmart' to the breaking point.

What I find more disturbing, however, is that there is mention in the thread that he is a writer. Given that he is (A) ostensibly a Trek fan and (B) would delete such moments as "the line must be drawn here", Kirk's response to David's death, and basically any other display of human emotion, I think it likely that he would be hired instantly and adored by B&B.

There is a place for any opinion, mind you. And if kmart's appreciation for films is based more on technical matters and a peculiar sense of drama that has sprung from that, then, well, whatever. I can't help but be reminded, though, of a music professor of my acquaintance (indirectly, through various students of his over the years). It is his position, held with dogmatic rigor, that the height of music has nothing to do with emotion or even audience enjoyment. The best music is that which is the most technically advanced, he believes . . . the series of notes and the transformations employed on them are the only things of consequence. We're not talking pop music vs. classical, even . . . old classical is crap to him, albeit historic crap. We're not even talking about the gimmicks of John Cage. I can barely describe what we are referring to, in fact.

I have been played example pieces of music that he finds acceptable . . . they involve dissonant notes, often slowly played, that are approximately as moving as traffic noise. Hell, I once attended a performance of one of his compositions . . . though I've never been tempted to fall asleep at such a thing, and though I was seeing the girl who was playing and thus was inclined to pay attention, I was still moved . . . toward unconsciousness.

It was when I was first exposed to this that I realized the vast discrepancy that can exist between what the common man (or even the less than common man) believes to constitute good ____, and what the overly technical and theoretical ____ elitist's tastes are. Best case scenario, that's the difference between kmart and everyone else.

In reality, though, I figure he's just an idiot.

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Jason Abbadon
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That's what claw hammers and scotchguarded clothing are for.

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I don't think kmart is an idiot. It's his reaction that was idiotic. I had respect for some of his opinions even if I didn't agree with them. On the other hand, the moment he started lashing out over a relatively puny slight made me lose that respect. And, as a writer myself, I can't support a writer who has to resort to "f u"...that shows a staggering lack of creativity in the discourse of insults. [Big Grin]

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No, no, see, it was actually a heaping of extra abuse, because he had to talk down to the little people so they might be able to comprehend. And he typed it real slowly, too. [Wink]

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Jason Abbadon
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If only he had spelled phonetically, I might have understood his wisdom.

He sacrificed himself for our sins!

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Uh, yeah, okay.....

I had no idea that you people had driven another, yes, yet another person away....

What is your tally now???

Speaking of people here, I haven't seen Jeff in a while....

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Driven away is a big word.. some people disagreed with him, he got upset and ran. Oh well. One more silly person to add to the list.

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Hooray for assholes.
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but I didn't get to play, that is all I am upset about.....

We do seem to have a fair amount of cutting and running, makes it kind of interesting, or is that just me being easily amused????

No matter....

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Jason Abbadon
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We didint even haze him!
No...we welcomed his opinions with open arms, polite responses (well, for us anyway) and he still ran away!

It's like the time when I was six and I thought puppies shed their skin and.....uh....we'll not get into that.

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Everyone go watch "Revenge of the Nerds II (Nerds in Paradise)" again. We've a valuable lesson about acceptance to learn from the lesser Carradine.
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