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PsyLiam
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In the episode that Troi took the test in, Crusher metnioned that she took it 8 years previously, in order to stretch herself.

Which makes her comments in "Farpoint" that she doesn't care about command matters seem like the big fibs that they were.

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Mark Nguyen
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I dunno... She coulda taken the exam, become disillusioned about the job (especially after Jack's death, whenever that was), and gave up on it. Later on, as she became comfy on the Enterprise, she could have gotten back into it.

Now, why they hell would PULASKI want to take the exam and become a full commander? She hated everyone, after all.

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PsyLiam
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Jack died WAY before she took the test. She took it less than a year before Farpoint, so that's a pretty big change of heart.

I don't think that Pulaski did take the test. She repeatedly said that she wasn't a bridge officer.

The confusion comes from the episode implying that the only way for the blue-shirts to become full commanders is to take the test. It mentions in the TNG Companion that it was a combination of several things. Ie, that Troi had done lots of commendable work, and taking the bridge officers test would be enough to get her a promotion, but that there would also be other ways to become a full commander. Perhaps Pulaski had done something amazingly commendable in the medical field(s).

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Lee
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Maybe she was overdue for promotion, but had yet to prove she was worthy. There are plenty of good reasons for the CMO (Crusher or Pulaski) to be a full Commander, like having the power to relieve anyone on the ship of duty.

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Pulaski always struck me as a "have the tool and not need it rather than need the tool and not have it" sort.

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Aban Rune
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I believe that the CMO can relieve anyone on the ship, including the Captain, of duty for medical reasons, no matter what rank he or she holds. The Doctor had the authority to relieve Janeway of command and he held no rank at all.
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PsyLiam
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Did Bashir ever threaten to do anything like that? After all, he was only a Junior Grade lieutenant (and then a full one).

And the original doctor on Voyager was only a lt. commander.

The holo doc seemed to work perfectly well without any sort of rank at all, come to think of it.

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Jason Abbadon
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I think the CMO can relieve any officer if they feel the officer is (or will be) a liability to themself or others but that's not something to be taken lightly: if they dont have LOTS of documented reason for the officer's removal, it would probably end (or at least curtail) their CMO status if the removal proves baseless.

Removing an officer from command is probably about as rare as a mutiny on a starship (we've only seen either because it's dramatic to a story).

With the chain of command, removing anyone of lower rank than the captain or XO should not really hinder the crew's capabilities: there would be at least one alternate for everyone (at least temporarly).

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Hmm... in light of how much he always bitched 'n moaned about his limited computer program rights, it's odd that Photon Boy was never actually granted a commission (even if it would have been only symbolic).
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Malnurtured Snay
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Liam,

Bashir relieved Kira of duty for one night, in the episode "Defiant." I can recall him perhaps threatening to relieve Sisko at one point, but can't remember when.

Also, just a thought, but it could have been a Starfleet requirement that a Galaxy-Class starship have a person of a certain rank for the position of CMO. Why? Perhaps Starfleet Medical would demand a person of Commander rank to lead the large medical department of a Galaxy-Class starship - probably a couple of surgeons, a pediatrician or two, a couple dentists, and the nurses and assorted medical staff, who really knows. All I'm saying is, maybe Bev took the test not because she really wanted the rank, but because she needed the rank for the position she wanted.

As for Pulaski, maybe this "Bridge Test" thing is a fairly new idea, and she gained promotion to commander before it was implemented.

Also, Liam smells.

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Timo
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Hmm. If a Galaxy requires a full Commander for CMO, why is a Nebula so different? Dr Lense in "Explorers" was just a Lieutenant, wasn't she?

(Then again, this is quite consistent with "Second Sight". [Mad] )

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Jason Abbadon
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Geeez.....spare your sanity and dont ever contenplate the command structure, bridge layout or pod applications of the Nebula class.
Better by far to shake tenticles with Chtulu himself.

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Lee
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Strewth! It's Cthulu!

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PsyLiam
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At least it wasn't the Loch Ness Monster.

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Hmm. If a Galaxy requires a full Commander for CMO, why is a Nebula so different? Dr Lense in "Explorers" was just a Lieutenant, wasn't she?

Hmm... might explain Bashir's rapid promotion as DS9 became a major outpost...

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