quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: I'm afraid Thanksgiving isn't a religous holiday, at least here in the US, unless maybe in the UK it is...
No, we don't even know what this crazy holiday is.
As for Ian Troi, if memory serves, while his holo-video showed him with full lieutenant badge, when Beverly received his belonings in "Family" they said "Lt Comm Ian Troi".
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Spike: Why is Bev listed as a Lt Comm for "Thine Own Self"? Is this because you are assuming that she got the promotion in the same way that Troi did? Does the episode say that? She could have already been a commander and just passed the Bridge Officers test. The test isn't the only way to get to full commander for the blue shirts according to the writers.
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Beverly has been a full commander since the premier of TNG.
quote:As for Ian Troi, if memory serves, while his holo-video showed him with full lieutenant badge, when Beverly received his belonings in "Family" they said "Lt Comm Ian Troi".
Liam: You're mistaking Deanna Troi's dad for Beverly Crusher's husband. Unless you're suggesting that Deanna and Wesley are half-brothers. IIRC, Ian does show up in that flashback-dream sequence in "Dark Page", in uniform. Anyone got a screen shot of his rank insignia?
quote:Originally posted by Intruder1701: I wonder if Starfleet has a Chaplains Corps? I wonder how that would work.
With great difficulty, I imagine. You'd probably need almost as many preachers as crewmembers on some ships! I would've thought it'd be easier to have either 'subspace sermons' or some sort of lay preacher set up.
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Didn't they have a chaplin on Kirk's Enterprise, according to "Balance of Terror"?
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quote:Why is Bev listed as a Lt Comm for "Thine Own Self"?
Because that episode established that she was promoted from Lt. Cmdr. to Cmdr. eight years ago.
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I think it says in dialogue - she and Troi are discussing the test, and Troi says she wants to take it because she's jealous of some of her former classmates from the Academy, and she asks Beverly why she took it. I forget Beverly's response, but given that Troi is promoted after passing the test, I would guess that Dr. Crusher was a Lt. Commander before the test, and a Commander after the test.
I'm sure you also have to have some requirements to be eligible to take the test, also. I mean, otherwise Dr. Jones would be promoted to Lt. Commander on Monday and test for Commander on Tuesday. Perhaps for staff officers, there's a certain amount of time which must first expire. "Gosh, sorry Doctor Jones, you gotta wait five years..."
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: but given that Troi is promoted after passing the test, I would guess that Dr. Crusher was a Lt. Commander before the test, and a Commander after the test.
Er, that's not exactly brilliant use of logic. You're only basing it off of one person, and that person isn't in the same profession (well, not exactly).
As mentioned, the writers didn't want to give the impression that passing the test = automatic promotion. In Troi's case, it was a mixture of things, and passing the test, combined with other good stuff she had done, resulted in her being promoted.
Unless it actually says that Bev was promoted, I don't think that we can assume that she was.
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As I recall, they were specificly discussing why Crusher wanted to be promoted to Commander in the first place. She makes some off-handed remark and says "So I took the test."
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TROI May I ask you a personal question... what made you decide to become a commander? I mean, you didn't need the rank in order to be Chief Medical Officer... so why put yourself through all the extra work?
BEVERLY I don't know... I never gave much thought to my rank for a long time... it seemed pretty trivial compared to being a doctor. But then, about eight years ago, I began to feel like I wanted to... stretch myself a little.
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