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This is a pic from an unrelated Refit Enterprise topic on StarshipModeler.com but it shows the wax secondary hull mock-up for the damaged scene:
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The argument that Kahn was just roughly aiming jibes slightly with Spock pointing to the damage chart and saying:
"They knew exactly where to hit us."
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Agreed. Khan new the Old connies very well. He also had a few of the Reliant's crew being "coerced" by his pets. They would have known the vulnerabilities of the Enterprise and I'm sure Khan didn't pass on the opportunity to "Know His Enemy" before he engaged him.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: The argument that Kahn was just roughly aiming jibes slightly with Spock pointing to the damage chart and saying:
"They knew exactly where to hit us."
Well he did for the initial "one big happy fleet" attack. But the phaser hits in question to the photon tubes were lucky shots in the Nebula. They were pretty much blind afterall.
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quote:Originally posted by Futurama Guy: Well he did for the initial "one big happy fleet" attack. But the phaser hits in question to the photon tubes were lucky shots in the Nebula. They were pretty much blind afterall.
Or maybe they were aiming for the engine room again but shot too high, since they blasted an area just two decks above it.
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They might have been trying to nail the antimatter tube thingie in the neck powering the impulse engines.
In the initial attack, I'm sure the Reliant's computers had at least MSD style plans of the Connie Refit....after all, the Enterprise sure had tyhe scoop on Reliant.
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Remember too that only one of Reliant's phasers actually struck, you can see the other beam shoot out into the nebula under the saucer. It was a blind-sided lucky strike with one bank.
quote:Originally posted by SoundEffect: Remember too that only one of Reliant's phasers actually struck, you can see the other beam shoot out into the nebula under the saucer. It was a blind-sided lucky strike with one bank.
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Well the other phaser would've hit the nacelle if the VFX department had bothered to include it in the shot! Those lousy VFX guys were fixing the fight from the start...
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Well the other phaser would've hit the nacelle if the VFX department had bothered to include it in the shot! Those lousy VFX guys were fixing the fight from the start...
did they actually hit? i seem to recall some of the hit points in ST3 having some scorring on the nassels...
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quote:Originally posted by Pensive's Wetness:
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Well the other phaser would've hit the nacelle if the VFX department had bothered to include it in the shot! Those lousy VFX guys were fixing the fight from the start...
did they actually hit? i seem to recall some of the hit points in ST3 having some scorring on the nacelles...
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No the shot wouldn't have hit the nacelle. Of the two phaser streams that were incoming, the one from Reliant's port cannon missed wide, fore of the dorsal, and the one from the starboard cannon tracked along the torpedo bay. The only way the shot that missed would have hit the nacelle would have been if said nacelle was almost on a level with the torpedo deck and brought forward under the saucer.
And no, the Enterprise took no external damage to her nacelles.
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I remember arguing about this on alt.startrek.vs.starwars years ago . . . someone was using that publicity shot to support some claim or other, and there was a flamewar when I pointed out that the pic wasn't from the movie and refused to back down from that stance.
Ahh, the good ole days. (twitch)
In any case, the version on film managed to avoid showing the nature of the model. In Star Trek III, however, there is indeed a badly composited shot wherein it's painfully obvious that something went awry, as noted earlier in the thread. Check the widescreen version, and you'll see the torpedo firing shot wherein the connecting dorsal has to be connecting to the saucer somewhere just port and aft of the lower sensor dome.
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