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Star Trek III always annoyed me because suddenly the Enterprise exhibits over twice as much battle damage as it did at the end of TWOK. Does Scotty's multiplication of damage estimates including faking battle damage? Ugh.
Actually the more I think about Trek III the more I hate it...
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Perhaps the hull coating deteriorated, or some nasty stuff from a ruptured conduit reacted with the hull.
I've just watched STIII for the first time in a few years, and it's not as bad as I had remembered it. Except that they should've just forgotten about Saavik. She played a terrible Vulcan.
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Because she was both psycho and wanted too much money.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Because she was both psycho and wanted too much money.
I've heard her agent asked for too much money, but I've never heard her described as "psycho". Given Saavik's crap part in ST3, she was probably better off staying away.
Psycho, now I'd like to know what you base that on.
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Rumors have circulated for years that Kirstie Alley hated her role and that the TOS cast was less than thrilled she was there. Not that you see any interviews with her on her reasons...it could just be rumor, but who turns down a movie deal that early in a career?
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Rumors have circulated for years that Kirstie Alley hated her role and that the TOS cast was less than thrilled she was there. Not that you see any interviews with her on her reasons...it could just be rumor, but who turns down a movie deal that early in a career?
Maybe. But according to rumor Leonard Nimoy wouldn't do Trek 2 unless they killed his character (he says that's untrue), and that Gene Roddenberry had to fight to have a multi-ethnic cast (when NBC memos of the time encourage it), and on and on. So you'll pardon me for being dubious of such rumors being flung around as fact.
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As Guardian 2000 and others said... It's not from the movie.
What it really is... is an animation test. Back then they did things the hard way and had to have 'proofs' of concept as they went from shot to shot. Most likely that was a locked shot. Where they took the still and did the test of how the phaser would move across the PhoTorp housing before tackling a moving (more complex) shot. It's not a 'bogus' image in the sense that someone doctored it. It's real.... just not IN the movie.
Another example of these kinds of tests would be the First Contact teaser where they substituted the Enterprise attacking the Borg Cube with the Voyager model while Ent-E was being built.
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as you can see here, the first shot from the movie is of the whole model. you can see where reliant missed on one side. the second, of the more detailed large torp bay model... this was more than likely a lucky hit, since the ships were trying not to ram each other. the enterprise returned fire and hit the aft bridge section of the reliant.
the one on the bottom... ick, the shot from st3. case closed.
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These are fantastic screenshots by the way!
How did you get that great quality?
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It's kinda big thing to not have the docking port on there.
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That's because it was the same model as the partial build used for the airlock damage from "Khan". That model wasn't intended to be seen from the other side, but they needed the torpedo launch closeup in TRek III. (I'm actually surprised that side had been painted at all!)
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