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PsyLiam
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What episodes was he a physicist in? Obviously WNMHGB, but wasn't he also a physicist in "The Man Trap", and possibly another episode?

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No. At least not that I know of.

There are a few other crew shifts: the dissapearance of Yeoman Rand and the introduction of Chekov (who, by TWOK, we must assume already worked on the Enterprise)

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PsyLiam
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But Rand's appearences don't have to be consecutive. They never said "I miss Rand since she transfered off the ship". Likewise with Chekov, they never acknoweldged his appearence.

And besides, Sulu dissapears for a good chunk of episodes in a row (in season 2, I believe). There's no great rush though to claim that they occured before the others, is there?

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This is getting far too petty.

1) "The Cage" - for obvious reasons should be first.

2) The next episode would be "WNMHGB", because of noticable differences in crew positions at the time, including the CMO Mark Piper and Sulu the physicist. After this the crew situation smooths out.

Another observation of continuity would be Spocks rank. He begins as a Lt. Commander but is a full Commander midway through the first season, and thereafter. That is one thing that was screwed up if you went by Air Date. In "The Menagerie" (aired Nov 1966) he is a full commander but in "Court Martial" (aired Feb 1967) his rank is given as a Lt. Commander. So those of Spock as a Lt. Commander would be before him as a Commander.

Additionally, you would have to have episodes, for continuities sake, like "The Menagerie" (1 then 2 - obviously), "Mudd's Women" before "I, Mudd"; "Balance of Terror" before "The Enterpise Incident" (and to some extent "The Deadly Years"); "Tomorrow is Yesterday" before "Assignment: Earth". Production order would also prevail over explaining the confusion of who owned the battle cruiser first in "Elaan of Troyius" and "The Enterprise Incident", which otherwise aired opposite of production.

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head. The rest is just petty stuff, and the rest of the series could pretty much be shown in whatever order you want.

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PsyLiam
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Spock always wore the rank insignia of a full commander though, even in "Court Martial". So that could be put in the catagory of "dialogue cock-up".

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Or "rank insignia cock-up."

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if both the dialogue and insignia were wrong, its possible then he was supposed to be a CPO.

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Whatever it is, he should Eat More Salsa, that's for sure.
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Or "rank insignia cock-up."

Fair point. It just makes more sense to me for the first officer of one of the best ships in the fleet to be a commander. And it also makes him outrank the second officer.

Is he called a Lt Commander in any of the pre-production material?

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Well, during the hearing in "The Menagerie," his rank is again given explicitly as Lt. Commander.

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PsyLiam
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Wait, Futurama Guy said that he was a full commander there, and a lt commander in "Court Martial". So, which one was it? Or was it both?

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According to these transcripts, he was identified as a Lieutenant Commander in both episodes.

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Eh, well...I was just referring to the Chronology for quick reference...

Anyway, I guess the point is is that at some point his rank *seems* to have changed during the run of the series.

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HE WORE THE INSIGNIA OF A FULL COMMANDER FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES YET WAS REFERRED TO ONCE OR MORE THAN ONCE AS LIEUTENANT COMMANDER

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DIE POST DIE!!!

This is getting far too petty.

1) "The Cage" - for obvious reasons should be first.

2) The next episode would be "WNMHGB", because of noticable differences in crew positions at the time, including the CMO Mark Piper and Sulu the physicist. After this the crew situation smooths out.

Additionally, you would have to have episodes, for continuities sake, like "The Menagerie" (1 then 2 - obviously), "Mudd's Women" before "I, Mudd"; "Balance of Terror" before "The Enterpise Incident" (and to some extent "The Deadly Years"); "Tomorrow is Yesterday" before "Assignment: Earth". Production order would also prevail over explaining the confusion of who owned the battle cruiser first in "Elaan of Troyius" and "The Enterprise Incident", which otherwise aired opposite of production.

Thats all there is and there ain't no more.

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