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Does anyone know how the Okudas decided which episodes of TOS's first season took place in 2266 and which ones in 2267?
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Very recently I was asking myself the same question. I couldn't figure it out, so I was planning on firing off an email to Mike Okuda about it. Haven't done so yet, though.
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Wasn't it just production year + 300? Season one was produced/aired in 1966/1967. According to the Concordance, "The Galileo Seven" was the first episode of 1967. It's also the first episode in 2267 in the Chronology.
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All of TOS could take place anywhere from 2265 to 2270, as long as TAS still fits in. And production order still makes the most sense, as stardates and airdates are both nonsensical.
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i used to use a general rule of thumb that 1XXX.X stardates were 2264, 2XXX -> 2265, etc. up to 6XXX being 2269. (this was before the 2270 date was revealed on Voyager, however).
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Ok, thx. I think I'll adopt the following dates for my page: 2266 - WNMHGB + Season 1 2267 - Season 2 2268 - Season 3 2269 - TAS Season 1 2270 - TAS Season 2
And which dates were mentioned in Voyager? Just 2270?
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Yep. Icheb said Kirk's mission ended in 2270.
BTW, TAS season 2 is only 6 episodes, and doesn't really deserve to be in a different year. TAS 1+2 is still only 23 episodes.
This has been done thousands of times, but I've drawn yet another timeline:
- Okuda's basic underlying premise seems to be the production month + 300 years. - He further places WNMHGB 'six months to a year' earlier than the first 'proper' season one episode (which is placed in September 2266). - He then claims (for seemingly no reason at all) that WNMHGB was 13 months, 12 days into the mission, as per some obscure stardate-system. This is by far the biggest anomaly in his TOS-dating.
That explains the red bars. If you fit five full years over that system, you get the green bars. The green timeline works well for the non-TAS universe, and before some Voyager writer introduced the 2270 date.
The blue timeline is my conjectural timeline. I've adhered to the basic 300 years assumption, but have removed the silly 2264 dates and added another year for TAS.
As for TMP.. even in Okuda's system, the 'two and a half years' statement only works if TMP takes place at the very end of 2271. I'd much rather put TMP somewhere in 2273.
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Why? There was obviously no exact date set when the show aired. And nowadays, it doesn't really affect anything if the show was 2260-2265, or 2265-2270. All they could do was pick an arbitary series of dates, and the ones they chose seem as good as any others.
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Charlie X definitely takes place in November, of course, so season one seems certain to span at least two calendar years, depending on how much time you assume passes between episodes (on average). And since it is, like, what, episode eight? nine? six? well, early on, anyway; that suggests that the bulk of the season takes place in the following year.
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Good point, Sol System. Didn't they mention Easter holidays in one episode, too?
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Charlie X is the 6th episode (produced.. it was 2nd in airing order), not counting the pilots. That would place it roughly 10 weeks (2,5 months) after The Corbomite Maneuver. Fits reasonably well into the above timeline.
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