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Well godddamn! Very cool. Good links there- thanks! Hmmm....I think the article I read concerning the idea was from about 2000 -which is when all those links are from- I wonder how they've fared after six years?
I also read somewhere where a pulsar or quasar could concievably be modified by an advanced species to carry a signal (or already does, but we're too primitave to see it as a signal).
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Those tanks coulud easily be for aquatic Federation crewmembers- a couple of years back, I was reading an intresting article on the possibility of sentient lifeforms originating in a deep-sea environment.
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But (and I could be totally imagining this) weren't the Xindi-Aquatics the last of the Xindi species to be recognised as such by the others, or something like that?
Either way, the Xindi-Aquatics are problematic as an example, because we don't know how much of their tech was developed by themselves, and how much by the other species. We've seen that the Aquatics have their own ships, which can more than hold their own against Insectoids and Reptilians; we've seen that underwater engineering is obviously advanced, hence the location of the uberProbe construction site on Azati Prime; but how much was down to the Aquatics themselves, and how much were they given a helping hand/paw/claw/mandible by the others?
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Well, an inteligent aquatic-based lifeform would be far more suited to the zero-G of space, so if one of the other races shared tech, the aquatics would have been ideally suited to a space-based life- possibly starting out as technicians and zero-G laborors and working their way up the social ladder...
Or they pioneer the theory end of the technology and use the others as labor.
Lots of possibilities with the Xindi co-op- including, of course, that all of them were created specifically to fill their environmental niches.
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For all we know the Enterprise-D had Xindi-Aquatics onboard...
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IF the "D" really had such facilities, they would have been used for those (stupid-looking) fish-ambassadors (the ones Luwaxana revealed were going to blow up whatever conference they were all traveling to).
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I'm sorry but I can't see whales and dolphins as truly sentient beings. I mean pigs are also one of the smartest animals on earth, but I have yet to see pig crew members(besides Tellarites of course.)
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God but I love bacon
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Who better in an escape pod with limited rations...
Set your phaser on barbeque!
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You are going to hell. No wait. Southern Florida. Sorry. I get them confused sometimes.
No, but that actually would be an interesting, or possibly compelling science fiction idea. Taking dolphins or some equivalently "intelligent" species, and having our very humano-utopian Trek socialists trying to wrap their brains around the cetacean value system. I mean, it could be that dolphins (or orcas or whatever) might be interested in exploring the depths of space or whatever provided there was ample tuna/mackerel to be had. It would be interesting to see how the cultures clashed and the abstract, dry and scientific thinking of SF might clash with these potential crew member's ideals. Like a REAL culture clash, not just barely tolerating Klingon bruskness or Vulcan dispassion, but like a fundamental interspecial difference. Not tolerance, and "ha, ha, silly Flipper, would you do it for a scooby-fish?", but actual understanding and cooperation (and in a darker, DS9 sort of mood, potential manupulation).
Also, (as previously mentioned) I always figured that the superiority of Xindi aquatic engineering might be chalked up to the superior IDF and structural enhancements their medium of choice would require.
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