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Saltah'na
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Perhaps Picard was never really in command of a ship at that time. I have a feeling that not all captains are assigned starships and the like. Some Captains are probably given tenures at institutions such as Starfleet Academy.

Likely that Captain Picard was a guest on a vessel which also responded to the emergency that particular day when he met Tasha Yar. What he was doing there could be anyone's guess: diplomatic mission, training cadets, on vacation to Risa, etc.etc.

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Dax
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Unfortunately "All Good Things..." shows that Picard and Yar didn't meet until just before the D's launch. Isn't that a bit of a contradiction? (I haven't seen "Legacy").

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Did they actually say in AGT that they hadn't met prior to that? And besides, even if they did, it's possible that Picard saw her previously, but they never actually spoke.

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Aban Rune
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It was implied in All Good Things that the two had never met. It was definate that Picard had never been on board before. He probably saw Tasha before but never actually met her until the traditional shuttle ride over.

As far as Picard not being in command of the ship that responded to the referenced distres call as mentioned in Legacy, he clearly refered to her a "my ship". I believe those were his exact words.

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I don't even read the ST novels but this sounds like an idea for a new book series. Picard: The lost years. All about his second ship. Hmmmm???

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My thought exactly. Actually, I've already come up with a little story line if I may...

Star Trek: Valhalla. Picard commands the Steamrunner Class U.S.S. Valhalla during the Cardassian or Tzen'Kethi Wars. He is involved in a secret strike force or something. This would explain the silence as well as bring back the Cardies. It would also allow for a little exploration since they'd be in little explored space.

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The First One
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I thought there was something about Picard helping Yar in the past. . . getting into the Academy or something. I'm probably wrong though. And it amazes me how they HAVE ignored Picard's lost years, especially when the much-hypothesized "second five-year mission" of the TOS crew between TMP and TWOK has had enough written about it to fill a TEN year mission!
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Kosh
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I like the idea for the story. May want to use a bigger ship.

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Saltah'na
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Captain Picard commanding a dingy Steamrunner Class? I think I speak for many other people when I say BLEEEAAAACCCHHH!!!!!!!!

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The First One
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There has to be an intermediate stage of sorts. I mean, he went from commanding a poxy little Constellation - for TWENTY YEARS - one of the oldest ships in the fleet, to commanding the newest, AND the flagship to boot! He'd been involved in the building/designing/whatever of the Galaxies, but had never been on one before.

I'd rule out an Ambassador or an Excelsior. He'd never served on a ship with families before. If even Mirandas have families, that suggests something unusual. I wouldn't rule out a Steamrunner - it's unlikely that ANY ship we saw on TNG would be the class concerned, or else he'd have got all misty-eyed whenever they saw one. Therefore the FC ships fit the bill nicely.


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It says a lot more if you can command a ship like a Constellation well as opposed to a large ship in a mediocre way.

I would imagine only the Type III Mirandas have families, although we haven't seen enough of the others to tell. The Excelsiors might not, and Ambassadors probably do (as with the Gandhi).

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bryce
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I got the impression the Galaxy was the first ship to have families.

I think if asked today they would make Picard younger, too. I'd say the character should be early sixties, and stay there.

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Aban Rune
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The Galaxy wasn't the first class to carry families (although the families posted to Galaxy Class ships obviously had the best time). Tom Riker mentioned bringing familiy aboard the Gandhi and Sisko had family aboard the Saratoga.

I suggested the Steamrunner class to get an intermediate ship sizewise and date wise. It could be any of the FC ships or one of the non canon ships, like the Sequoia or Wambundu Classes. But if it were made into books, how would you illustrate a ship that hasn't been seen yet? We artists have to think about things like this. And there aren't many illustrators out there that I would trust to come up with a cool ship design.

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It's so logical that Picard commanded another ship after the Stargazer and before the Enterprise-D. He, just like every other Starfleet officer, had to have had a long history of command experience which could include command of more than one ship. There is a long gap between the time he lost the Stargazer and him taking command of the Enterprise. He could have commanded an Ambassador Class after the Stargazer, since those ships have components that were used on the Galaxy classes. And I'd think Starfleet wouldn't assign a captain of an Oberth class to command a Galaxy class. It's logical to believe that someone in command of the former top of the line class would be given command of the new top of the line class.

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Not really; that would mean capable captains would be locked into commanding lesser ships and such. I mean, they have to move up at some point.

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