Run through "All Good Things" and find the scene in the shuttle bay where Picard comes aboard the E-D. The orders he reads go something like "From SF Command to Capt Jean Luc Picard" and then I believe they say "commanding officer USS..... You are hereby requested and required to..."
Do they give his second command there? Am I imagining that?
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I just saw "All Good Things..., Part I" a few days ago and I don't remember them giving a previous ship.
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No, they didn't.
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USS Enterprise ncc-1701-B mosified excelsior-class starship, one of the most advancd ships in the fleet commanded by first time captain, John "Tuesday" Harriman
You need a former captain of a top-of-the-line ship to command a new top-of-the-line ship? Starfleet doesn;t seem to think so.....
But it does make alot of sense that Picard did something between the Stargazer and the Enterprise. They wouldn;t have him sitting at starfleet command for so many years.
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Ya mean like how he got all misty-eyed at the Hathaway in Peak Performance? Yup, he was forever breaking down into tears...
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Well, regarding promotion in starfleet, it's kinda wierd. The U.S. Navy assigns captains to ships for only a specific period of time. The whole point is to get command of a bigger and better ship.
Starfleet seems to assign captains for the life of the ship or until they are promoted to Admiral. In the Navy, a 22 year command (as with Picard and the Stargazer) would be unheard of. So I'd conjecture that Picard's second command was either destroyed or decommissioned and it's wouldn't necessarily have to have been a ship of the line.
By the by, the Ambassador class was not the state of the art up until the Galaxy. Nebulas, Akiras, Steamrunners, and several others all predate the Galaxy but were introduced after the Ambassador. I would thereby say that they were state of the art, even though smaller and possibly less powerful.
Okay so we've seen dudes who end up serving on/commanding the same ship forever. This does not mean it is the status quo. I mean look at tours of duty. Untill they get on the Enterprise (or whatever the platform for the series may be) most characters have served at several different ships/stations. Then they get on the Enterprise and never leave. I would think that there is a probably an average rotation worked out for personnel and commanding officers. But if you are Jean Luc Picard and you want to stay where you are, you get to because you have lots of friends in high places are are generally held in high regard by starfleet. In other words people like Picard and the officers under him have the option of sidestepping transfers if they wish to. This is generally not a good strategy for a career minded individual as transfers and promotions often go hand in hand. Riker would have been a captain (or at least had his own command for over a decade now had he not decided to rot his career away on the Enterprise).
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You make a very good point. It is very likely that senior officers have a little say in their assignments. It also makes sense that people who are good at what they do want to stay where they are. I think longer tours of duty and longer commands may also come from the nature of deep space exploration. Unlike the Navy, Starfleet likely has many long term assignments going on. "O.K. Capt Bob, we're giving you command of a Galaxy Class. Turn your Intrepid around, come back 5,000 light years and we'll get a new captain." Unfortunatley, we've really only seen a very narrow slice of Starfleet policies and proceedures.
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Sorry, I'm slightly confused by Bryce's comment waayy up there that Picard should be early sixties, and stay there. First, it's the 24th century. People live longer. Get over it. And second, how can he stay there? This isn't the Simpsons ya know...
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Well, he can't stay there but after his trip to Bak'u in Insurrection, I think it's safe to say that Picard is about the same age as Patrick Stewart.
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But then shouldn't Picard in the next film look like Picard did in 'Encounter at farpoint'?
Although I probably couldn't spot the difference. Aside from getting fat, the male TNG cast doesn't seem to have aged much in 10 years.
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I think AGT illustrated that Patrick Stewart hadn't changed much as he looked exactly as he had in the original farpoint scenes, cept his skin always looked a little more pasty back then. I think that Riker actually did show his age quite a bit by shaving off the beard. When he grew the thing it made him look five years older, now I'd say it makes him look ten years younger.
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