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That would only work if it was lesbian penguin porn, given how often the MU episodes threw in a little girl-on-girl action. Not that it was cheap titillation intended to prop up weak scripts, oh no. Any gratuitous lesbianism was a completely integral part of the story. :-)
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You mean there's non-lesbian penguin porn now?? What an age we live in!
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Dude, that's what I like about Ent's mirror episodes. Proper, old-fashioned, women-seducing-men-of-power, just as God intended.
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Well... minus the lesbianism. That is something that brings into fruition in the 24th Century MU.
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In all fairness there is quite a bit of women seducing women of power too, but after a while it did all tend to get a bit gratuitous and yawn-inducing.
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Daniel Butler
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I think I might have mis-expressed... I was saying that I prefer ST:ENT's MU eps to the DS9 ones because every woman on the ship wasn't a lesbian.
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Teh PW
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and thus esecallum, proves my point about SC-F:
when one requires devious means to win brownie points, win flame wars or prove with out a doubt that Lebian Peguin Pr0n and Smurf Bondage GO SO FUCKING WELL, with each other,
proves the point that i drive the bus into oncoming traffic with skill, flare and mildly neurotic Pink Haired Halflings...
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I think we've successfully proved that this isn't and was never meant to be a family forum. *lol*
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Teh PW
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Yeah, i was totally like WTF? here? family values? is this guy from another anybody is familiar with? /me tosses Shik the bong *dont use it myself sir *
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just as i thought. this esecallum is possibly just a forum troll. his nick according to google is on at least a dozen forums... Heck, my name has 3 versions to check for my hits...
at least when i discuss, troll or brake out the toasty flamer, i smile and wave after the fact...
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Feh. Seaturkeys let me down in Green Bay. Pansies couldn't handle a little snow. After that, I don't give two craps who walks off with it.
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Da_bang80
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quote:Originally posted by Shik: Esecallum, please tell me you have no aspirations to foreign service duty.
Well, international relations is just one country fucking another. So he'd probably be pretty good at it. Or bad, depending on whose doing the fucking.
Oops, I said "fucking" is that allowed on a "family site"?
This whole thread makes me LOL. Especially that first post.
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quote:Originally posted by HerbShrump: Elaan of Troyus was several years earlier. Klingon ships no doubt had improved technologically. While it's true that the Enterprise had improved in that same time period, there is no indication that the Enterprise could STILL outclass and defeat a D7, K'Tinga or the Chancellor's ship (for those who want to quibble over the class).
As pointed out numerous times above, the Chancellor was the highest political official of the Klingon Empire at that time. Killing him, even in self defense would have sparked an intergalactic incident.
Even as it was tensions were high. Not only was Starfleet considering a rescue operation but they were openly sharing this knowledge and tactical data with the Romulans.
Kirk DID NOT KNOW about the cloaked Bird of Prey. His choice to surrender vs. fight was not based upon knowledge of that ship.
Chang's Bird of Prey, however, would have proved to be a valuable witness for the Klingons. Evidence would have been fabricated to show that the Enterprise did fire upon Q'onos 1 first and then subsequently damaged or destroyed the ship. Enterprise records were already showing that they had fired first.
In fact, Chang would have then felt justified to decloak and join the assault against the Enterprise. It could then easily be claimed that the Klingons were suspicious of Starfleet and thus felt the need to keep a cloaked Bird of Prey nearby for escort and protection. Some lie would have been spun to explain the ships presence.
If you, in the Klingon's shoes, were to give Kirk the benefit of the doubt after A)He fired on your ship first and unprovoked and B)Fired again and disabled your ship or C)Fired again and destroyed your ship then you are probably a much better man than the Klingons.
The Klingons may have been weakened and a war may have exhausted them (which is really in question since they were still a strong empire 100 years later) but the Klingons aren't the type of species to simply ignore an incident like this. They would have rather died as a species fighting the Federation than to sit back and not retaliate against the murderers of their Chancellor.
I was clearly mislead that this was a high quality forum,as most of the members here seem to be little more than the back biting,sniping variety who cannot string more then a sentence together and obsessed with beastiality,porn and profanity...with the exception of you and a very few others....
But going back to the discussion I can only say your deus ex machina is not involved.Just watch that episode and you will see I am correct.
Also what was the point of a peace treaty as they were not even at war anyway.
So the reason for Gorkons visit is non-existent.
Romulans hostility existed towards the Klingons and the Klingons would easily have believed they had destroyed the Kronos.
It is not as if Kirk had not lied before.In the Corbomite Manoeveur he lied about the Corbomite device.
All politicians lie.All people lie.Everyone lies.
In Elann of Troyius the Enterprise dilithium crystals had been sabotaged by onboard andorians and they discovered replacements in the necklace which the Princess was wearing but meantime were hit 8 times by a d7.
When power was restored they fired 2 or 3 shots and the Klingons were damaged and ran away.Another 2 or 3 and they would be destroyed proving that the d7 is not a match for the Enterprise.
Remember Kirk never got a fair trial.It was a kangeroo court with people yelling from the multi storey aisles.
I never said Kirk should assassinate Gorkon.That had been done by the Kligons themselves.By surrendering you put yourself at great risk of death,torture and mutilation by unprincipled rogues.Further you display weakness.
Kirk could have countered that the Klingons had killed him as they really did not want peace.He should have beamed over Azetbur and convinced her that it was the Romulans or the Klingons by showing her the neutrino surge and playing the video logs as it would have been impossible to tamper with the evidence that quickly.Once she had been convinced she would be beamed back and would either seek out the conspirators or break off diplomatic relations with the Romulans or even destroy a few of their outposts in revenge.
Also evidence cannot be tampered with as if you did tamper with it,it can be shown that it has been tampered with.
Kirk could even have claimed that a bomb planted by klingon conspirators had exploded on board the Kronos and no one could have proved it otherwise as it happened in Federation space with the wreckage not available to the klingons.
In fact the film could have been similar to a ds9 episode in which The Romulns were enticed wth fake evidence.
In TUC the film could have been about how Kirk managed to convince the Klingons it was not him and that it was someone else.
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