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That's funny, you must have been watching a different version of "Space Seed" then we got in this universe. Ours didn't end on a cliffhanger with "To Be Continued...In A Theater Near You!" emblazoned in funky red lettering.
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You said "connected". You didn't say "directly follow on from".
It does need to have a sense of scale. Yeah, there are movies where people don't die, but do you want a sci-fi version of Friends? Actually, I do, but still...
And it still amuses me when people keep saying "The most important thing is for it to have new ship classes in it!" or "The most important thing is for it to have Nebula-class ships in it", or "The most inportant thing is continuity", or "the most important thing is for the movie to adress why Picard's Stargazer model was missing from his office during 'The Battle'". Bollocks. The most important thing is a good story. Everything else is negotiable.
And what do you mean: "With the pressure on Berman to turn Star trek into a mass market cash cow from an intelligent niche show by Paramount executives"
Star Trek's been a mass-market cash-cow for well over a decade now. The Next Generation was as close to mass market/mainstream as Trek has got on TV, and the Trek films usually do pretty well as the box office. Star Trek IS mass market. It's DS9 and Voyager that aren't.
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Well, Kirk had a single man as an enemy, and a group of people as an enemy. Picard's had his group (or maybe the collective counts as a single entity?). Now he needs a single person that makes a good adversary. I mean, nothing exactly like Khan. Can't just copy a previous movie.
I wanna see Sela. It'd fit in will with the reunification movement, and it'd be nice to see Denise in a movie. Having her and Spock in a movie together would be great.
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Yes, please! No more maniac trying to destroy/ rule the universe/earth!
I think it would be unfair to jump to a voy/tng movie! What about DS9???? Most of their episodes would fit onto the cinema-screen, especially the battles scenes. Maybe some O'Brien and Bashir Cameo!
The Breen would make a great adversary in the next movie, but they should not be revealed too much.... Don't let them take their helmets off! All the mystery would be gone!!! The same happened in Space-Above&Beyond (or Space2063) with the Chigs.
But i really like Omegas idea! unknown destructors of the dominion will be searched by a Federation Task Force...and finally they find them - the Vaadwaur (the guys from voyager ep "Dragon's Teeth"!
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Well I think after seeing bits of Insurrection again this evening - we have to FEEL for the Characters... I was just thinking to myself - especially in the battle scene of Insurrection (don't get me wrong its not that BAD of a movie) that how formulaic is the battle sequence in Insurrection... Of course the big E was going to pull through... of course the Bak'u would be saved... there was nothing COMPELLING to pull/YANK you into the other side/last half of the movie.
If you really don't CARE or can see that your characters are going to 'win' always - then you're attention is not really going to be held for long is it.
Think of the Great Trek movies... II: Spock's death, the Enterprise in pieces... stranded inside the Genesis planet etc. etc. VI: The tension between the Klingons and the Feds... Kirk and McCoys trial/them giving themselves up/the race to Khitomer etc.
First Contact: Set the future right... First Contact... Picard dealing with the Borg - Data's alliegence - the fate of the Big E... Picard loosing it with Lilly.
Great stuff.
Andrew
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I was sort of curious to know just how Picard intended to 'slow things down' in the Federation. It sounded to me like he was talking about the necessity to 'clean house' as it were.
Although after DS9, I think I've had enough of Section 31-style conspiracies.
Exploration/Adventure.
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Thanks, but I should have posted that in a thread about the next series, not here.
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I meant a really great villan from the series that REALLY hates Picard (and NOT Bok!). Maybe Sela doesn't have that exact characteristic, but they could plausably work up her having a grudge against Data, seeing how he's ruined all three of her plans that we've seen, presumably getting her in trouble. I'd like that. Again, reunification is the way to go. Gotta have at least some mention of Spock, if not an actual appearance, and you could bring Worf in in a decent manner (unlike Insurrection), as the Romulans effectively joining the Federation could definitely cause some tensions with the Klingons. Built-in villan. The only pitfall I see is that you risk copying ST6, but that should be reasonably easy to avoid.
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Again, like I said before, I Guarantee you that there will not be a Voyager movie.
This will be the timeline.
June 2001: Voyager Finishes. Sept 2001: Series V Starts. December 2002: Star Trek: X. December 2008: Star Trek: XI, featuring Series V cast.
I know this, for I am a rabbit.
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For Star Trek X, I wouldn't mind seeing a really off the wall ending, or resolution.
For example, I was watching an episode of 'The Practice' a while ago, and although I only caught a bit of it, I saw a scene in which a "villian" had tied Dylan/Duncan/Stacey McDermott to a chair, and had a gun at his chest.
Which was about as entertaining as an episode of 'Pregnancy Story' on TLC. Obviously the "villian" was not going to kill their main star, not with his millions of dollars contract.
So in ST:X, they should do that. Have Picard or somebody in an unwinnable situation, and just when the audience thinks 'Oh, he's gonna get out safe' - POW!
That I'd go see.
------------------ "What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad." - Dave Barry
I think Berman said quite clearly that ST:X would be released in December 2001. He said they're drawing up a script right now for the movie, as well as for Series V ...
Then again, he could just be putting us off ...
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