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Oops. I'll fix it, even though CaptainMike has been kind enough to post a working link of his own.
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wow.. i didnt even use the URL tag.. it linked it on its own.. nice forum you got here, Mistah Capps..
Oh, and the fucking Ferengi is being played by goddamn Ethan 'Neelix' Phillips.. i never wanted to see that idiot again except in repeats.. son of a bitch, you know i was beginning to soften up on Braga and Berman. Couple of assholes, thats what they are.
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Here's a crazy idea: see what they do before getting all bent out of shape. How do you know the Enterprise crew will ever meet the Ferengi in question? The Ferengi could be working in legion with, say, the Suliban in the Helix, but is never seen by the humans. Or he could be part of a "menagerie of aliens" on some sort of prison planet, in which case he's one of many unknowns. It's a little premature to just throw up arms and give up.
So far there haven't been any major continuity errors in Enterprise, and there is no reason to assume that this will be one. Even if it is.
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Besides which, events in TNG and DS9 even contradicted the whole "we didn't meet them until Season One TNG' anyway", so I don't see how this is any worse then that.
Besides, Enterprise isn't part of the same Starfleet that the Enterprise was, 'member?
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quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: Besides which, events in TNG and DS9 even contradicted the whole "we didn't meet them until Season One TNG' anyway", so I don't see how this is any worse then that.
When? I don't remember any Next Generation or Deep Space Nine reference to any Federation member species meeting the Ferengi before 2364.
Aside, of course, from the Battle of Maxia.
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Ditto. It could be a continuity error of a magnitude large enough to piss me off. In which case I will be, although I won't do the whole hari kari Trek-is-being-destroyed routine. But it also could end up being a kind of neat in-joke. Say the crew runs into an alien trader in a marketplace on some planet crowded with aliens of every sort. This guy's got big ears and they end up haggling in a bidding war for information, but don't catch the name of its species. Could even be funny. Dramatic irony, and all.
Or it could be an alien poppping up on the viewscreen saying "Hi! I'm a Ferengi. Pleased to meet you." In which case we'll have our first blatant continuity error of the series. And the earth will continue to rotate, and children in Ethiopia will continue to starve, and I will continue to tune in Wednesday nights at eight hoping for a free hour of entertainment.
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I'm sure they won't make such a blatant f*ckup... not after they quite succesfully resurrected the Andorians and gave faces to two of TOS's obscure aliens (Axanari and Malurians) *and* giving a TNG alien some background (Nausicaans). Ferengis, Klingons and holodecks are popular among the production crew, one would think.
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Because the production crew are dopes. Why cant they make a good show instead of another Ferengi-holodeck-Klingon show?
Even if they have the Ferengi meet no one, be perfectly explained, and leave continuity unscathed, I'm still going to be pissed off at seeing that fat oaf Neelix on the screen again, in any form. Why cant they accept what sucked about Voyager (him) and leave it behind.
Perhaps their imagination of their proudest hour as writers would be to successfully combine the plots from 'Spock's Brain', 'The Outrageous Okona', 'Force of Nature', 'Threshold' and 'Tuvix' "Fire the science advisors and call Joes Piscopo, we have some shitty television to make!" will be their rallying cry!
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quote:Why cant they make a good show instead of another Ferengi-holodeck-Klingon show?
Like Deep Space Nine?
quote:I'm still going to be pissed off at seeing that fat oaf Neelix on the screen again, in any form. Why cant they accept what sucked about Voyager (him) and leave it behind.
You won't be seeing Neelix. You'll be seeing Ethan Phillips, a perfectly friendly guy who's never said anything nasty about you. That I know of.
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The difference being that DS9 was good. And Braga never went anywhere near it. We've all discussed the reasons that ENT shouldn't have Ferengi and holodecks and Klingons. because those plot elements are tired, and ENT wants to be original.
You are right I have no reason to dis Ethan. But I'm mad. And the way this situation has been described to me really stinks.
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I was under the impression they met the Ferengi during the tng time period, in the official contact sense.
The Ferengi probably dealt with human traders long before.
But Picard and the crew of the Ent-D was clueless about the Ferengi ships and abilities and as well as their culture.[The stargazer blew up a Ferengi ship and didn't even know about it]-Meaning Starfleet have spotty records on the Ferengi from Stargazer to Ent-D.
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