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Harry
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That's true. ENT has to contend with 30+ years of 'pre-TOS' fandom, which at times was pretty much a consistent history.

Another apparent inconsistency with other Trek seems to be the existence of the *huge* Delphic Expanse obviously very close to the core worlds. Not to mention the Xindi attack.

And of course, the Temporal War and all that stuff might not 'have happened'. But thinking about time travel makes my head hurt.

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But the Delphic Expanse is caused by the Xindi Spheres, so once they are deactivated it will no longer exist...

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"...it has been accepted gospel to the majority of fans--- including many casual fans [people who'd faithfully watch the show but never send the time of day to this forum]."

Um... People who watch the shows, but aren't like us, don't care what a bunch of fans have made up as backstory. If they're lucky, they remember that there was some episode of TOS that mentioned an old war with the Romulans. For them to even know about this "gospel" you describe, they would have to read Web sites like this, or the pre-Internet fandom publications.

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by Harry:
Another apparent inconsistency with other Trek seems to be the existence of the *huge* Delphic Expanse obviously very close to the core worlds. Not to mention the Xindi attack.

I really do struggle with this bizaro world logic that states "if something hasn't been mentioned before, it never existed."

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quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
I'd say a human farmer shooting at a crash-landed Klingon in the middle of a Kansas cornfield is pretty disasterous.

Not from the Klingon perspective. [Smile]
According to novel, Klaang is actually grateful that farmer shot him in the chest, as opposed to Sulibans who tried to shot him in the back. (and while we're at it, while running away from Sulibans he was wondering whether he can run backwards. No, really.)

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And even though the High Cuncil grudgingly thanked Archer for bringing them the DNA info intact, there was already tension there and hostilities began immediately thereafter, as seen in "Unexpected."
Please, don't remind me this episode [Embarrassed]
(is this true this idea was deemed "too stupid" when originally brought up as possible Voyager scenario idea?)
And even though Klingons acted hostile at the beginning of this episode, it was not because of "Broken Bow", and Enterprise crew ended up doing them a favor. Once again.

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Besides, without first contact being made, there would never *be* any hostilities, so under any circumstances one could say that it "led to" them.
This is possible, but rather unlikely. Picard used the Klingons example to show that botched first contact can lead directly to hostilities, not that one should avoid all contact because alien races he may meet may in future turn hostile.

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Anyone who is interested in Ellis' fiction should pick up "Transmetropolitan."

Yes... it IS a comic book, but it is really quite wonderful. I'd recommend starting at the beginning and checking out the first year or so. There are trade paperbacks available.

And if someone else has mentioned this already, I apologize.

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Jason Abbadon
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Transmetropolitan has the most feared hand-weapon in all of fiction.

I cant find me a pair of Spider's glasses for blood or money though....

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It has the "Ultimate Nullifier"?

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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I still can't believe you're claiming that ENT is worse than frigging VOYAGER. I mean, come on... [Eek!]

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What? [Smile]

I honestly can't think of anything that hasn't been done better in Voyager than Enterprise.

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Character development?

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Yes, that has been done better in Voyager too [Wink]
(hint - the helmsman actually had more that one line per episode [Big Grin] )

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Too bad the first officer didn't.

Well, worthwhile lines, anyway.

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A Vulcan that actually kinda acts Vulcan?
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PsyLiam
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Meh. That's not automatically good. After all, Worf was a Klingon who barely acted Klingon, and he was still a good character.

(And as an aside, it's a tribute to Robbie McNeil that Paris was even half a good a character as he was considering that his total character development for the series was 98% done by the end of the pilot.)

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