quote:Originally posted by USS Vanguard: Pretty sure not mentioned yet but, where'd you get Deneva class for the Merchantman from? Also, why is it SS Merchantman, i thought Merchantman was the name of the type of ship, not the name of the ship itself?
AFAIK, Merchantman was the name of the ship. And it was this model that was used for (among many other things) the Arcos in "Legacy" (TNG). Based on that (and the fact that the pilots of the ship in STIII appear quite human, and the ship has a human name) I have extrapolated/conjectured that the Merchantman was a Federation-registered vessel, and that it was Deneva-class.
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In the script for The Search for Spock, the ship is described simply as "a merchantman" (just as the Klingon ship is called "a bird of prey") suggesting that it is not a proper name of any type, and definately not the ship's name.
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And where did you get this information that the Arcos was the MM model? Last I heard, we still only knew the Arcos to be a dot that only lasted on the screen for a second.
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Well, a screencap would be about as useful as a polaroid of a 1 cm x 1cm piece of tin foil scrunched up and dropped on the floor.
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Like Veers, I remember the info from an old thread here. (Maybe even from before I actually joined. I used to come here and read stuff before ever registering to post.)
And the Encyclopedia and all other reference sources I've seen have given Merchantman as the proper name of the ship. I'm reluctant to give up that idea, but maybe I will based on the script.
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Having a ship named "SS Merchantman" makes as much sense as having a ship named "USS Battleship" or "SS Liquified Natural Gas Tanker." I'd say the Encylopedia is wrong in this instance.
Don't mention "Dreadnought," though, as this was a ship's name BEFORE it became a ship type.
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There is a screenshot of the Arcos out there somewhere, and it looks pretty much exactly like what Tom just described.
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Mighty Monkey of Mim: If you can see a Merchantman model from this crappy screencap, then you either have the greatest eyesight known to man, or you're wrong. I haven't made up my mind yet.
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Smaller than I remember, but at least there is a screecap. And, they would have had to put a model in to stand in for the ship, wouldn't they? What better to use they the versatile Merchantman model?
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How about a headless and limbless torso of an action figure, sprayed silver and stuffed with squibs? They wouldn't even have to composite the explosion.
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I konw you can't see shit from the 'cap, but I think somebody had backstage info that the model used was the Merchantman.
On another note, whoever it was who was wondering where the info for the Intrepid mentioned in TNG came from, Spike's site has this pic of the display I mentioned. I can't really tell if the fact it's Excelsior-class is listed on this particular graphic, but the registry is there, and it is certainly not befitting of the Intrepid-class prototype.
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Some interesting info on that chart. Unreadable, but interesting. I can decipher "USS Intrepid", NCC-31897 (or whatever), "commisioned," and "Captain something-something."
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Which episode is that screen cap from, MMoM? I hope it's not from "Force of Nature" because that would certainly screw with logic. As a side note, it would prove that the ship couldn't have been at Wolf 359 (a topic in one of the other tech threads).
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