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i like the idea of the older ships gradually being relegated to less important duties, such as starbase defense or even planetary defense (a few connies wouldn't go amiss in the Mars Defense Perimeter, if you ask me). This could explain why admirals so often use Excelciors instead of newer ships; they were assigned to intra-federation duties and so were near to the Admirals Starbase or even Starfleet command.
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For some reason it repeated the above so I deleted it.
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howcome every screencap i see lately is from my local station.. creepy
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About 4 years back someone - Aaron the Overlord, maybe? - here did a really good TOS Miranda design, and Tachy even modelled it. I thought I might have some pics of it, but can't find any. . .
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I'm sure that I've seen a TOS Miranda- possibly at the Daystrom Institute. I think It's on the size chart section.
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I posted the link to that DITL Miranda image way back on the first page of this thread!
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Yes you are right, sorry! About what time period would the 'new, Mirandas have been built. Are there any early (NCC-18xx) Mirandas in service in TNG?
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The DITL TOS Miranda is all over the web.. and completely inaccurate IMO. Its a lousy GIF-bash, if i may coin a term. See Ships of the Star Fleet, Coventry-class and Surya-class
I modeled a Coventry a few years ago, but i dont know if any images survived the last crash.
In TNG, there was the USS Lantree.. NCC-1837 IIRC..
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*edit* OH, BTW a much better view of a TOS version is on my site (which wont be available until 1400 hours EST because of a bandwidth cutoff) either paste these in [noclick]http://www.geocities.com/captainmike47/Images/coventry.gif[/noclick] [noclick]http://www.geocities.com/captainmike47/Images/surya.gif[/noclick] [noclick]http://www.geocities.com/captainmike47/Images/cortezuss.gif[/noclick]
quote:Are there any early (NCC-18xx) Mirandas in service in TNG?
Yes, the Lantree NCC-1837.
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I just said that.
What was actually the correct reg of the first Saratoga (TVH)?
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The model went from Reliant 1864 -> Saratoga 1867 -> Lantree 1837 -> Brattain 21166 -> Bozeman 1941 -> Saratoga 31911 -> unnamed from "Generations". There were a few other appearance in between, but we have no name or number for them. After "Generations" all Mirandas have been CGI, but unsure of FC appearance. (even Generations appearance may have been CGI as well, but no evidence to support that)
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we also have low registries for the Bozeman (1941) and, according to Okuda, the Constellation (1974). The Bozeman should be 2270s and the Constellation many say should be placed later, although ships of that type could theoretically go back as far as the Bozeman (the Hathaway 2593 is dated around mid 2280s to further toy with its class orgiin date, and to further toy with the Excelsiors 2000 as possibly being a throwback)
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If Starfleet did decide to commission 'new' Constitution refits then presumeably they would be for some second line purpose, like those Mirandas w/the roll bar removed (transports). I think that Starfleet, like modern day militaries would try to get as much milage as possible out of it's designs and spaceframes.
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