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Agreed. The Constitution refits would doubtless make superb patrol cruisers, either in low-priority areas, or in regions where the prestige of these warhorses could have an effect. But they'd probably be pulled off of, say, the Romulan Neutral Zone by 2300.
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Just like Excelsiors have stayed useful for so long, but not as flagships, but serving the newer flagships
BTW i fixed that link on the last page for reading about the Coventry-class
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Constitution-refit??? Oh, you must mean the Enterprise class! Or, are you refereeing to the Constitution II class?
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Maybe the lack of Constitution classes in later years, was because of the Khitomer Accords... maybe the Klingons stipulated an end to the production of the Constitution class... and the Feds relented (cause they had the Excelsiors, and the Ambassadors coming down the production line.
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maybe Excelsior but Khitomer I was in 2290's, and the Ambassador was designed in the late 2310's.
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Look at it this way, B-51s are in still in use becuase they were designed to handle any type of bomb and drop many of them. That would be like the Excelsior class, the Constitution class would be the B-17 bomber. In WW2 they were effective and very durable. But by 50's they were practically useless.
Maybe by the 2360's the Connie's were useless by then. The one we saw was most likely brought out of mathballs in emergency to combat the Borg.
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I would debate the comparison of the Excelcior to the B-52 and the Constitution to the B-17. The bombers both have completely different powerplants, one is prop, the other jet; granted the Excelcior was intended to have transwarp but the final production version does not. Also the obsolete arguement only applies to front line vessels; the Connies could easily have been modified to second line purposes; a modern day example of this is the DC-3 Dakota, designed in the 1930s it is still in service w/about 10 air forces and several civilian airlines today. I would say that the Connies were modified to be system defense cruisers or something along these lines; the science labs could easily be replaced with long range sensors or additional weapons, possibly with a downgraded warp propulsion system.
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It's from a display (a starship mission assignment list) used on the bridges of the Enterprise and Excelsior in TUC. The Constellation, NX-1974, was undergoing certification trials at Starbase 24 at the time of the film. The Encyclopedia lists the uprgaded standard service number, NCC-1974.
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Look at the general look of the warp nacelles evolution.
TOS Era Nacelles: Red basaard collector, with cyclinder non-colorful design middle, end cap of some sort of design. Daedalus, Constitution, and the NX classes have this type of nacelle.
Movie Era Nacelles: Varies slightly but basically is a long nacelle, with a non-glowing grid. The basard collector is normally integrated with the nacelle and not glowing. Constiution II, Miranda, Oberth, Constellation, Excelsior, and Centaur classes have this.
TNG Era Nacelles: The design varies, but general design is the back grid is blue and the bassard collector is red. All TNG era ships all have this.
This shows that a few things 1.) Nacelle fashion design is consistent with their respective eras. 2.) There are three generations or more of nacelle design. 3.) Nacelle design is not consistent and can be effectively redesigned.
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I'm replying to this from page '2' even though - I have yet to get through reading pages '3' and '4'...
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quote:Depends on what the Olympia was exploring. Not "deep space" in the sense that it would have been awfully far away from Earth - after all, the Defiant picked up the SOS and reached the site pretty rapidly, despite being tasked with escorting a convoy of transports. Such a convoy would have no business being farther out than DS9 from the Federation heartland, especially in wartime.
I think, that it was mentioned by Cap'n ?Cusak? that the Olympia was on its way BACK from it's Deep Space mission... So it could have been close enough for the Deffie to make it. ALSO, why didn't the Olympia send out a distress beacon before it crash-landed on the planet!?! Thus the message would have reached them in Season 2.
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