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Mark Nguyen
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Gilso! Where *do* you get these from?!

http://www.gilsostartrekschematics.co.uk/shipgallery/shipgallery3/novavariant.jpg

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Holy crap! [Eek!] Is that the actual CGI Foundation used for the Rhode Island? They really went out of their way to make it look more advanced or powerful.

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So the RI has Sovereign-style lifepods, too? More support for the claims that this is a "new" lifepod design, and thus more problems for those wishing to consider the Akira or the Steamrunner older vessels. Or then a sign that lifepods can be easily changed in a minor refit... In any case, those pods are much smaller than their Sovereign equivalents.

This is the sort of variation I'd like to see in all Starfleet designs. I could even buy the continuing presence of the Mirandas in the TNG era if they didn't look so completely identical to the old USS Reliant...

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I think they're from the Fact Files.
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Where is this "USS Rhode Island" from? Just fanfic? Is it bigger than the old Nova or just closer to the camera?

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It's from the Voyager series finale, "Endgame". Since you obviously haven't seen the ep, I won't spoil you with whose ship it is or any of the other details.

It appears to be the same size as the Equinox, but, as you can see, several details are different.

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The last time I saw the episode, I swear that the RI was larger than what could be considered for the Nova class, plus had weapons to take on the Negh'Vars or Voodians, or whatver they are called then.

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Mark Nguyen
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The other way around - the Voodieh (variants?) were smaller than the RI!

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Is the Rhode Island DIFFERENT enough to be given another Class status - or is it just a Nova Variant?

several differences I've spotted so far:

Different bridge module/area
No forward 'divot'
No tubes on the medial surfaces of the Nacelles
The 'consumables connection hardports' area - "the back bone" is different
Life pods
Bussard Collectors
Sensor packs behind bridge
Auxillary Deflector (Why was Voyager's never lit)

Nice ship (both of them).

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AndrewR: To answer your question, no comment was made in "Endgame" that specifically states that the Rhode Island was or wasn't a Nova Class ship. I don't get the Fact Files, so I don't know if they stated that it is a Nova. However, Mojo told us that Rob Bonchune wanted to re-use the Nova class for the finale, so make of that what you will. And personally, I don't see enough difference between the two ships to reasonably state that they are two different classes.

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IMHO, if the VFX guys knew that the Rhode Island was going to be taking on two Voodieh class ships, they shouldn't have given Harry a puny Nova no matter how much they modified it. They should have given him a battleship, or at least the Prometheus.

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differences between the Nova-class USS Equinox and the Nova-class USS Rhode Island[/i]:
different bridge module
different deflector housing
different escape pods
alteration of warp nacelle structure
alteration of hull detail between nacelles

differences between the Constitution-class NCC-1701 and the Constitution-class NCC-1701-A:
different bridge module
different deflector housing
different windows
alteration of warp nacelle structure
alteration of hull detail between nacelles

I dont think we need to sweat the class difference...

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Differences between Soyuz- and Miranda-classes? An aft section with a few sensors. Differences between Yellowstone- and Danube-classes? None observable.
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Well if you look at the differences of the RI and the Nova, you'll se that the deflector is replaced by the same one they use on the Intrepids, which could mean that perhaps the smaller one is more efficient.

What I think happened, at least during that time, that the Nova class could have had a sister ship, one heavily armed, and one lightly armed. Maybe both were equal in size or the Ri was actually larger.

Hmmm...

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The RI had a very low registry for a ship seen 20 or years into the future.
Something like the galaxy range.

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Mark Nguyen
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And the Pasteur was NCC-58928.

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